I’m against deprecating it. Can we rename the feature as SchemaGuessing or FieldGuessing mode? That would set expectations right from the start.
You may want to ask the user community too, but ask if they use it in development, and if they like it, since it is not made for prod use :) Jan Høydahl >> 3. aug. 2020 kl. 20:05 skrev Tomás Fernández Löbbe <[email protected]>: > > Agree with Jason. It's useful for prototyping and developing. I remember > seeing some warnings about it (in the logs?), but maybe we need more? > >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 10:41 AM Jason Gerlowski <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Is anyone on this list using schemaless mode in production or have you >> > tried to? >> >> Schemaless mode is one of a group of Solr features present for >> convenience but not intended for production usage. It's in the same >> boat as "bin/post", and SolrCell, and others. These features do cause >> headaches when users ignore the documented restrictions and use them >> for more than prototyping. But at the same time they're super >> valuable for these sort of demo-ing or getting-started use cases. An >> easy getting-started experience is important, and schemaless et al >> serve a mostly positive role in that. >> >> I think we'd better serve our users if we left schemaless >> in/undeprecated, and instead focused on making it harder to >> (unknowingly) use them in ways contrary to community recommendations. >> Add louder warnings in the documentation (where not already present). >> Add warnings to the Solr logs the first time these features are used. >> Disable them by default (where that makes sense). Taken to the >> extreme, we could even add a section into Solr's response that lists >> non-production features used in serving a given request. >> >> There are lots of ways to address the "feature X is trappy" problem >> without removing X together. >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:33 AM Marcus Eagan <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Community, >> > >> > There are many of us that have had to deal with the pain of managing the >> > schemaless mode of operation in Solr. I'm curious to get others thoughts >> > about how well it is working for them and if they would like to continue >> > to use it. >> > >> > I for one don't think Schemaless works as intended and favor deprecating >> > it and replacing it with some more usable but I am sure others have >> > thoughts here. >> > >> > Is anyone on this list using schemaless mode in production or have you >> > tried to? >> > >> > A preliminary discussion has occurred in this Jira ticket: >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14701 >> > >> > Thank you all, >> > >> > Marcus Eagan >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
