Even better! I still favor removing it in 9 but if not, this sounds like a
good approach

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 8:54 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We don't need Jersey either. It is already possible for Solr to accept
> arbitrarily nested paths for endpoints (using annotations) without using
> Restlet or Jersey.
>
> On Wed, 23 Sep, 2020, 8:16 pm Alexandre Rafalovitch, <arafa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How much harder are the use-cases currently covered by managed
>> resources, if that module was removed?
>>
>> For standalone instances, it is nearly as easy to edit the file and
>> reload the schema. And it will probably be more version-control
>> friendly than the files currently saved by the module.
>> What about for SolrCloud?
>>
>> My feeling is that this module did not catch on, I don't think anybody
>> ever implemented additional managed resources, though I remember
>> seeing Jiras. So, unless there are super-special use cases, I am +1 on
>> deprecating it ASAP for 8.7 and removing it in 9. It will fit with the
>> overall theme of getting slimmer and more consistent.
>>
>> Regards,
>>    Alex.
>> P.s. Also, I think the question on SolrUsers about this had limited
>> response and mentioned a security issue.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 10:28, Timothy Potter <thelabd...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I agree we should deprecate the managed resources feature, it was the
>> first thing I was asked to build by LW nearly 7 years ago, before I was a
>> committer. Restlet was already in place and I built on top of that, not
>> sure who introduced it originally (nor do I care). Clearly from the vantage
>> point of looking back, JAX-RS and Jersey won the day with REST in Java but
>> that simply wasn't the case back then. What's important is how we move
>> forward vs. bestowing judgement backed by wisdom of hindsight on decisions
>> made many years ago.
>> >
>> > In the short term, does Apache have an Artifactory (or similar) where
>> we can host the Restlet dependencies for Github to pull them from? If not,
>> then we can port the code that's using Restlet over to using JAX-RS /
>> Jersey. Personally I'd prefer we remove Managed Resources support from 9
>> instead of porting the Restlet code but I don't know if 9 is too soon from
>> a deprecation stand point?
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 11:33 PM Noble Paul <noble.p...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We should deprecate that feature and remove restlet dependency
>> altogether
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:20 PM Joel Bernstein <joels...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Restlet again!!!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Joel Bernstein
>> >> > http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:18 AM Eric Pugh <
>> ep...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do we have a community blessed alternative to restlet already?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sep 20, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Noble Paul <noble.p...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Haha.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In fact schema APIs don't use restlet. Only the managed resources
>> use it
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 3:35 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> If I were talend, I'd immediately start publishing to maven
>> central. If I were the developer who built the schema APIs, I would never
>> have used restlet to begin with.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Sat, 19 Sep, 2020, 1:13 am Uwe Schindler, <u...@thetaphi.de>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I was thinking the same. Because GitHub does not cache the
>> downloaded artifacts like our jenkins servers.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> It seems to run it in a new VM or container every time, so it
>> downloads all artifacts. If I were Talend, I'd also block this.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Uwe
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Am September 18, 2020 7:32:47 PM UTC schrieb Dawid Weiss <
>> dawid.we...@gmail.com>:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I don't think it's http/https - I believe restlet repository
>> simply
>> >> >>>>> bans github servers because of excessive traffic? These URLs
>> work for
>> >> >>>>> me locally...
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Dawid
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 6:35 PM Christine Poerschke (BLOOMBERG/
>> >> >>>>> LONDON) <cpoersc...@bloomberg.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>  This sounds vaguely familiar. "http works, https does not
>> work" and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-13756 possibly
>> related?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>  From: dev@lucene.apache.org At: 09/18/20 10:01:29
>> >> >>>>>>  To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> >> >>>>>>  Subject: Re: restlet dependencies
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>  I don't think it is, sadly.
>> >> >>>>>>  https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/restlet
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>  The link you provided (mvnrepository) aggregates from several
>> maven
>> >> >>>>>>  repositories.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>  D.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>  On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:46 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya
>> >> >>>>>>  <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>  Sorry, afk, but I heard (*hearsay*) that restlet is also on
>> maven central
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> these days. Can we confirm and switch to that? Sorry, if that's
>> not the case.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>  On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 1:15 pm Dawid Weiss, <
>> dawid.we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>  Just FYI: can't get PR builds on github to work recently
>> because of this:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Could not resolve all files for configuration
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> ':solr:core:compileClasspath'.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>  350 > Could not download org.restlet.ext.servlet-2.4.3.jar
>> >> >>>>>>>>  (org.restlet.jee:org.restlet.ext.servlet:2.4.3)
>> >> >>>>>>>>  351 > Could not get resource
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> '
>> https://maven.restlet.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet.ext.servlet/2.4.3/org.res
>> >> >>>>>> tlet.ext.servlet-2.4.3.jar'.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>  352 > Could not GET
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> '
>> https://maven.restlet.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet.ext.servlet/2.4.3/org.res
>> >> >>>>>> tlet.ext.servlet-2.4.3.jar'.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>  353 > Connection reset
>> >> >>>>>>>>  354 > Could not download org.restlet-2.4.3.jar
>> >> >>>>>>>>  (org.restlet.jee:org.restlet:2.4.3)
>> >> >>>>>>>>  355 > Could not get resource
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> '
>> https://maven.restlet.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet/2.4.3/org.restlet-2.4.3.j
>> >> >>>>>> ar'.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>  356 > Could not GET
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> '
>> https://maven.restlet.talend.com/org/restlet/jee/org.restlet/2.4.3/org.restlet-
>> >> >>>>>> 2.4.3.jar'.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>  357 > Connection reset
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>  D.
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>> >> >>>> --
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>> >> >>
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