I hadn’t realized what the https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/package-manager-internals.html#package-store Package Store does previously, thanks for sharing that.
Is the blob store the only use of the .system collection then? Is “blob store == .system” conceptually? > On Oct 30, 2020, at 12:40 AM, David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote: > > AFAIK, the blob store is staying, perhaps because the metrics history handler > still uses it. That said... I'd rather it just not. It's obsoleted by the > "file store", an unsung hero of the new package manager system. > > ~ David Smiley > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley> > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 11:54 AM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com > <mailto:ep...@opensourceconnections.com>> wrote: > I was looking at the Deprecations wiki page: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Deprecations > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Deprecations> > > However, the wording on that page is "Runtime lib plugin loading from blob > store”, so maybe I’m wrong, and we’re keeping the blob store, but just not > for loading runtime libs? I found that the > https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/metrics-history.html > <https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/metrics-history.html> page > highlights you have to have the .system collection to persist metrics through > restarts. > > I looked at https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/blob-store-api.html > <https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/blob-store-api.html> expecting it > to say “don’t use this, use the package manager”, however it doesn’t. I did > find on > https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/adding-custom-plugins-in-solrcloud-mode.html#adding-custom-plugins-in-solrcloud-mode > > <https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/adding-custom-plugins-in-solrcloud-mode.html#adding-custom-plugins-in-solrcloud-mode> > that it highlights that adding custom plugins via the blob store and is not > supported in Solr 9. > > > > > >> On Oct 29, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org >> <mailto:md...@apache.org>> wrote: >> >> I saw these issues but I didn’t find the blob store deprecation decision to >> reference when closing them. >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 6:59 AM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com >> <mailto:ep...@opensourceconnections.com>> wrote: >> Mike, >> >> There are five that come up: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12501?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20component%20%3D%20blobstore >> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12501?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20component%20%3D%20blobstore> >> >> >> >>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org >>> <mailto:md...@apache.org>> wrote: >>> >>> This is done for CDCR and Velocity. >>> >>> I don't really understand which parts of HDFS are deprecated and which ones >>> are staying (this is not a request for somebody to explain it to me), so I >>> left that one alone. >>> >>> If you link me to the blobstore deprecation JIRA, then I can close those as >>> well. I think I have the mechanics of this figured out by now. >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 3:36 PM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com >>> <mailto:ep...@opensourceconnections.com>> wrote: >>> Thank you Mike! >>> >>> While you are at it, is “blobstore” also a candidate for this? >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 4:30 PM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org >>>> <mailto:md...@apache.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> That's a good point, David. I'll make sure to include that. >>>> >>>> @Eric - I'll handle the Velocity issues for you as well. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 2:59 PM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org >>>> <mailto:dsmi...@apache.org>> wrote: >>>> In these bulk changes, please add a comment pointing to the deprecation. >>>> >>>> ~ David Smiley >>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley >>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:34 AM Eric Pugh >>>> <ep...@opensourceconnections.com <mailto:ep...@opensourceconnections.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> Hopefully not hijacking your thread…. I ran the report for the Velocity >>>> contrib module, and wondered if we should do the same thing there? >>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-6702?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22contrib%20-%20Velocity%22 >>>> >>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-6702?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22contrib%20-%20Velocity%22> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org >>>>> <mailto:md...@apache.org>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Devs, >>>>> >>>>> Just a heads up that since Solr CDCR is on the slate for >>>>> deprecation/removal, I'm going to clean up some JIRA issues related to >>>>> it, namely >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20component%20%3D%20CDCR >>>>> >>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20component%20%3D%20CDCR> >>>>> >>>>> There's a few that I'll leave untouched, like SOLR-10091 and SOLR-14611, >>>>> since they are not related to the current implementation of CDCR, but the >>>>> rest should be closed as Won't Fix. I'll try to do this without spamming >>>>> the mailing list, but apologize pre-emptively if this generated a bunch >>>>> of traffic. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>> >>>> _______________________ >>>> Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | >>>> http://www.opensourceconnections.com >>>> <http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy >>>> <http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal> >>>> Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed >>>> <https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw> >>>> >>>> This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be >>>> Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of >>>> whether attachments are marked as such. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________ >>> Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | >>> http://www.opensourceconnections.com >>> <http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy >>> <http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal> >>> Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed >>> <https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw> >>> >>> This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be >>> Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of >>> whether attachments are marked as such. >>> >> >> _______________________ >> Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | >> http://www.opensourceconnections.com <http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> >> | My Free/Busy <http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal> >> Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed >> <https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw> >> >> This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be >> Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of >> whether attachments are marked as such. >> > > _______________________ > Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | > http://www.opensourceconnections.com <http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> > | My Free/Busy <http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal> > Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed > <https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw> > > This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be > Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of > whether attachments are marked as such. > _______________________ Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | http://www.opensourceconnections.com <http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal> Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw> This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of whether attachments are marked as such.
