On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:49 AM Greg Miller <gsmil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that technically it's just as good. I also think it's less
> clear for a user. The concept of "points" is something we've
> established in Lucene, so I think it makes sense for users to think
> about indexing points as a doc value as opposed to having to manage
> multiple fields for all their dimensions in this sort of unsorted
> field. But that's just my opinion as a user. But that's maybe a bit
> philosophical at this point and I think we can "agree to disagree" for
> now because...

Users don't deal with low level docvalues codec APIs, so I see this
"as a user" as irrelevant, sorry. Higher-level classes (e.g. Field
class) could impl it this way as implementation detail.

>
> ... just to be clear, I'm _not_ suggesting we add a new doc value type
> at this time. I'm not even necessarily advocating that we ever add it.
> I think it's perfectly reasonable to define a new Field class that
> builds on top of BDV (as Marc has done in his PR) that allows users to
> add "point" fields to their documents that get indexed as doc values
> (using BDV). This is very similar to LatLonDocValuesField,
> LongRangeDocValuesField, etc. Is that an acceptable approach to you,
> or are you advocating that we shouldn't do that and should instead
> create these new "unsorted" numeric fields now? I'm even fine if we
> put this in the sandbox module for now while we "kick the tires." In
> fact, I think I'd advocate for that.

+1 to build a field class in sandbox, using BDV behind the scenes. I
don't want to add any new DV types, trust me. I am just especially
opinionated against multidimensional stuff pushed down to docvalues
level, when it makes no sense from a DV perspective (column stride
fields). If you have 3 dimensions of numbers, at a low level it would
just  make 3 columns at the end of the day anyway: IMO it would only
make codec code more complicated with no benefit. So that's why I was
listing out other alternatives.

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