On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Michael McCandless wrote:

> I think, to fix this, we (the Apache Lucene PMC) should stop
> officially posting artifacts to Maven ourselves.  I think it's great
> if Steve (and/or others) continue to do so, just outside of the Apache
> Lucene project and outside of the Lucene PMC.  This would mean the
> Maven build/deploy is fully downstream from our official releases,
> just like how the numerous other package managers/repositories (yum,
> apt, pkg, etc.) distribute our release artifacts.

+1 - Love Steve, love his work - it really is fantastic - he's a wizard when it 
comes to this stuff.

I have always been a "Maven belongs downstream" supporter though - and I still 
believe that is the way to go. If the majority of committers don't agree, 
that's okay - but if the majority of us are not interested in the viral nature 
of Maven, I think we should change things.

We predicted when this first came up that Maven would have a much larger affect 
on us then was predicted by some. That is why I thought we should vote at the 
time to support it internally or not. I think now that we can observe many of 
the ramifications of our previous choice, it's easy to see that Maven affects a 
lot. It's a burden on committers, it's a burden on the PMC. Thank goodness 
Steve has been around to help mitigate it, but its still affected us and he may 
not be around forever. That's my vote (no surprise).

- Mark Miller
lucidimagination.com












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