I've had a lingering frustration with the recent blowup due to the solr-commons-csv Maven artifact (SOLR-3204). We've worked around the particular issue (we now hide the dependency)...
But in thinking it over, and avoiding rehashing all the technical details, what bothers me most about what happened is that the Lucene PMC is/was held accountable for "having released code in another project's namespace", yet, none of us realized we had done so. We are (or at least I am) generally ignorant of the consequences of deploying artifacts and dependencies into Maven. I think that's bad: I'm not comfortable being held accountable for something I don't understand. I am very sorry (to the Apache Commons project) that we "released" their sources like that; I had no idea we were doing so. Ignorance is not an excuse and really the Lucene PMC is/was negligent... I think, to fix this, we (the Apache Lucene PMC) should stop officially posting artifacts to Maven ourselves. I think it's great if Steve (and/or others) continue to do so, just outside of the Apache Lucene project and outside of the Lucene PMC. This would mean the Maven build/deploy is fully downstream from our official releases, just like how the numerous other package managers/repositories (yum, apt, pkg, etc.) distribute our release artifacts. This can be beneficial for users who consume our artifacts via Maven as well: for the 3.4.0 release, the Maven artifacts were broken, but we couldn't change the already-released bits (SOLR-2770). Had Maven been downstream, this should have been easily resolved since it'd just be a re-spin of Maven's artifacts, not Lucene/Solr's. All of this being said, I'm very very grateful to Steve for working so hard to understand Maven, and build/deploy the Lucene/Solr Maven artifacts, for our releases. I know it's a huge amount of work, and in general rather thankless around here, being stuck between people who love Maven and people who don't, yet Steve has done an amazing job at it. Mike McCandless http://blog.mikemccandless.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
