Ok, the path change will break the Ant test.  The maven test seems to have
the current directory set connectors/elasticsearch during testing; the ant
test explicitly sets it to one of the build directories below that.  But in
any case I will need to consider how the test can be changed to use a
specific ES source directory; maybe a -D can be pushed into it.

Karl

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 3:30 PM Michael Cizmar <mich...@michaelcizmar.com>
wrote:

> Two in BaseITHSQLDB's setupElasticSearch method
>
> First to set the Java_HOME
> Map<String, String> envs = pb.environment();
> if (System.getenv("JAVA_HOME")!= null) {
> envs.put("JAVA_HOME",System.getenv("JAVA_HOME"));
> } else {
> throw new Exception("Missing JAVA_HOME as a system environment variable");
> }
>
> The second removing the double dot
> if (isUnix) {
> pb.command("bash", "-c",
> "./test-materials/unix/elasticsearch-7.6.2/bin/elasticsearch
> -q -Expack.ml.enabled=false");
> System.out.println("Unix process");
> } else {
> pb.command("cmd.exe", "/c", "..\\test-materials\\windows\\
> elasticsearch-7.6.2\\bin\\elasticsearch.bat -q -Expack.ml.enabled=false");
> System.out.println("Windows process");
> }
>
>
> ===================================================================
>
> ---
>
> connector/src/test/java/org/apache/manifoldcf/agents/output/elasticsearch/tests/BaseITHSQLDB.java
> (revision
> 1881665)
>
> +++
>
> connector/src/test/java/org/apache/manifoldcf/agents/output/elasticsearch/tests/BaseITHSQLDB.java
> (working
> copy)
>
> @@ -32,6 +32,7 @@
>
>  import org.apache.http.util.EntityUtils;
>
>  import org.apache.http.impl.client.HttpClients;
>
>  import java.io.IOException;
>
> +import java.util.Map;
>
>  import java.io.File;
>
>
>
>
>
> @@ -44,11 +45,13 @@
>
>  {
>
>
>
>    final static boolean isUnix;
>
> +
>
>    static {
>
>      final String os = System.getProperty("os.name").toLowerCase();
>
>      if (os.contains("win")) {
>
>        isUnix = false;
>
>      } else {
>
> +      //Unix
>
>        isUnix = true;
>
>      }
>
>    }
>
> @@ -84,9 +87,16 @@
>
>      final File absFile = new File(".").getAbsoluteFile();
>
>      System.out.println("ES working directory is '"+absFile+"'");
>
>      pb.directory(absFile);
>
> +    Map<String, String> envs = pb.environment();
>
> +    if (System.getenv("JAVA_HOME")!= null) {
>
> +      envs.put("JAVA_HOME",System.getenv("JAVA_HOME"));
>
> +    } else {
>
> +      throw new Exception("Missing JAVA_HOME as a system environment
> variable");
>
> +    }
>
>
>
> +
>
>      if (isUnix) {
>
> -      pb.command("bash", "-c",
> "../test-materials/unix/elasticsearch-7.6.2/bin/elasticsearch -q
> -Expack.ml.enabled=false");
>
> +      pb.command("bash", "-c",
> "./test-materials/unix/elasticsearch-7.6.2/bin/elasticsearch
> -q -Expack.ml.enabled=false");
>
>        System.out.println("Unix process");
>
>      } else {
>
>        pb.command("cmd.exe", "/c",
> "..\\test-materials\\windows\\elasticsearch-7.6.2\\bin\\elasticsearch.bat
> -q -Expack.ml.enabled=false");
>
> @@ -93,10 +103,13 @@
>
>        System.out.println("Windows process");
>
>      }
>
>
>
> +
>
> +
>
>      File log = new File("es.log");
>
>      pb.redirectErrorStream(true);
>
>      pb.redirectOutput(ProcessBuilder.Redirect.appendTo(log));
>
>      esTestProcess = pb.start();
>
> +
>
>      System.out.println("ElasticSearch is starting...");
>
>      //the default port is 9200
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 2:19 PM Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What changes did you make?
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 2:41 PM Michael Cizmar <
> mich...@michaelcizmar.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > Response from ES: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> > > ES came up!
> > > ElasticSearch is started on port 9200
> > >
> > > @Karl - How would you like this packaged up?
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:52 PM Michael Cizmar <
> > mich...@michaelcizmar.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Agreed.  We want to limit this unpacking because elastic packages
> them
> > > > differently.  I started down the rabbit hole of making a macOS
> download
> > > but
> > > > then got into permission issues and started issuing chmod.
> > > >
> > > > When I get back from lunch I am going to just set the JDK of the
> > process
> > > > to be the system environment variable and I think that will fix the
> > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:37 PM Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Michael,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> JAVA_HOME is not usually a requirement for Maven building but it's
> not
> > > >>
> > > >> unreasonable to have it, especially since maven itself looks for it.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I suspect that, in order for the Maven build to work, you currently
> > need
> > > >> to
> > > >>
> > > >> do this:
> > > >>
> > > >> - Set JAVA_HOME
> > > >>
> > > >> - Run the ant build first
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> That's a little pain in the butt but we can fix this going forward -
> > at
> > > >>
> > > >> least the unpacking part.
> > > >>
> > > >> Karl
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:33 PM Michael Cizmar <
> > > mich...@michaelcizmar.com
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > I figured it out.  Just working through it.  There was a path
> issue.
> > > >> When
> > > >>
> > > >> > I start the process it's looking for a JAVA_HOME.  I've got that
> now
> > > >> set to
> > > >>
> > > >> > the JDK that comes with elastic.   The download of elastic that
> ant
> > is
> > > >>
> > > >> > doing is specific for linx Linux so that's failing.
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > Does the build require JAVA_HOME to be set?   The machine I'm
> > working
> > > on
> > > >>
> > > >> > does not have that set.
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:27 PM Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > The ant build unpacks the ES binary and puts in the place needed
> > to
> > > >> run.
> > > >>
> > > >> > > My guess is that we need to add similar unpacking to the maven
> > pom.
> > > >> I'll
> > > >>
> > > >> > > see if there is a way to do that.
> > > >>
> > > >> > > Karl
> > > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:00 PM Michael Cizmar <
> > > >>
> > > >> > mich...@michaelcizmar.com
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > I think you are right.  The es.log file contains the
> following:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > bash:
> > > ../test-materials/unix/elasticsearch-7.6.2/bin/elasticsearch:
> > > >> No
> > > >>
> > > >> > > such
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > file or directory
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > bash:
> > > ../test-materials/unix/elasticsearch-7.6.2/bin/elasticsearch:
> > > >> No
> > > >>
> > > >> > > such
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > file or directory
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > bash:
> > > ../test-materials/unix/elasticsearch-7.6.2/bin/elasticsearch:
> > > >> No
> > > >>
> > > >> > > such
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > file or directory
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > bash:
> > > ../test-materials/unix/elasticsearch-7.6.2/bin/elasticsearch:
> > > >> No
> > > >>
> > > >> > > such
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > file or directory
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > bash:
> > > ../test-materials/unix/elasticsearch-7.6.2/bin/elasticsearch:
> > > >> No
> > > >>
> > > >> > > such
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > file or directory
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > bash:
> > > ../test-materials/unix/elasticsearch-7.6.2/bin/elasticsearch:
> > > >> No
> > > >>
> > > >> > > such
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > file or directory
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 10:49 AM Karl Wright <
> > daddy...@gmail.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > Ok, I didn't realize this was from Maven only.  It may be a
> > > >> working
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > directory or dependency version issue.
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Michael Cizmar <
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > mich...@michaelcizmar.com
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > I reproduced the infinite Elastic Search Loop when
> building
> > > from
> > > >>
> > > >> > > maven.
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > I'm investigating it now.
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 9:30 AM Michael Cizmar <
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > mich...@michaelcizmar.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > > I'll take a look at the build this AM.
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 5:13 AM Karl Wright <
> > > >> daddy...@gmail.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> I don't have a Mac, so if we can't figure out how to
> get
> > ES
> > > >> to
> > > >>
> > > >> > > start
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> properly on a Mac, I have no ability to debug it
> > myself.  I
> > > >>
> > > >> > would
> > > >>
> > > >> > > be
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> forced
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> to recommend we just disable the test - or continue
> with
> > > the
> > > >>
> > > >> > vote,
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > since
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> nothing has changed and we released it this way for the
> > > last
> > > >>
> > > >> > > release
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > in
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> April.  We have people waiting for the Postgresql
> > updates.
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> Karl
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:54 AM Cihad Guzel <
> > > >> cguz...@gmail.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Michael,
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > I have log lines repeating like as follow:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >  T E S T S
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Running
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> org.apache.manifoldcf.agents.output.elasticsearch.tests.APISanityHSQLDBIT
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Configuration file successfully read
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > [main] INFO org.eclipse.jetty.util.log - Logging
> > > >> initialized
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > @7246ms
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > [main] INFO org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server -
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > jetty-9.2.3.v20140905
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > [main] INFO
> > > >> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler -
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > Started
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > o.e.j.w.WebAppContext@2ad48653
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> {/mcf-crawler-ui,file:/private/var/folders/gw/4lgs06cd065d09gnm6ythcp80000gn/T/jetty-0.0.0.0-8346-mcf-crawler-ui.war-_mcf-crawler-ui-any-5325495261063795321.dir/webapp/,AVAILABLE}{../dependency/mcf-crawler-ui.war}
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > [main] INFO
> > > >> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler -
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > Started
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > o.e.j.w.WebAppContext@6bb4dd34
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> {/mcf-authority-service,file:/private/var/folders/gw/4lgs06cd065d09gnm6ythcp80000gn/T/jetty-0.0.0.0-8346-mcf-authority-service.war-_mcf-authority-service-any-1339291969162319913.dir/webapp/,AVAILABLE}{../dependency/mcf-authority-service.war}
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > [main] INFO
> > > >> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler -
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > Started
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > o.e.j.w.WebAppContext@7d9f158f
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> {/mcf-api-service,file:/private/var/folders/gw/4lgs06cd065d09gnm6ythcp80000gn/T/jetty-0.0.0.0-8346-mcf-api-service.war-_mcf-api-service-any-2172701003493912621.dir/webapp/,AVAILABLE}{../dependency/mcf-api-service.war}
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > [main] INFO org.eclipse.jetty.server.ServerConnector
> -
> > > >> Started
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > ServerConnector@2796aeae{HTTP/1.1}{0.0.0.0:8346}
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > [main] INFO org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server - Started
> > > >> @10899ms
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > ES working directory is
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> '/Users/cguzel/Projects/apache/svn/release-2.17-RC1/connectors/elasticsearch/target/test-output/.'
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Unix process
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > ElasticSearch is starting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Didn't reach ES; waiting...
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Cihad
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > Michael Cizmar <mich...@michaelcizmar.com>, 9 Eyl
> 2020
> > > >> Çar,
> > > >>
> > > >> > > 12:40
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > tarihinde
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > şunu yazdı:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Cihad,
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > What was the error that you received when compiling
> > in
> > > >>
> > > >> > maven?
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 3:39 AM Cihad Guzel <
> > > >>
> > > >> > cguz...@gmail.com
> > > >>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hi Karl,
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I have successfully compiled using ant build. I
> > tried
> > > >> to
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > compile
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > the
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > tag[1]
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > using maven, but the ElasticSearch tests still
> fail
> > > >> using
> > > >>
> > > >> > > Mac
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > [2]
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > .
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > <
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-1651
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > [1]
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/manifoldcf/tags/release-2.17-RC1
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > [2]
> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-1651
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Cihad Güzel
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com>, 8 Eyl 2020
> Sal,
> > > >> 16:32
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > tarihinde
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> şunu
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > yazdı:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Tests pass.  +1 from me.
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Looking for a few other voters?
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Karl
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 6:32 AM Karl Wright <
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > daddy...@gmail.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Please vote on whether to release Apache
> > > ManifoldCF
> > > >>
> > > >> > > 2.17,
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > RC1.
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> The
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > release artifact can be found here:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >>
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> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/manifoldcf/apache-manifoldcf-2.17
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> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > There is also a release tag at:
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> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > This release does not contain anything major
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> > > >> > > 2.16
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> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Please
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> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > work on the Mac.
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> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks!
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> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Karl
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