Hello Peter, BTW, you cc'd d...@es.openoffice.org on your message, but I can't find any message about that thread in the archives of that list.
So I'm not sure if anyone in d...@es.openoffice.org received your message. Best Regards, Ramon -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Re: [marketing] Marketing budget - SCALEx9 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 01:44:50 +0100 From: Ramon Sole <ramon.s...@opscons.com> To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org CC: mar...@marketing.openoffice.org, d...@es.openoffice.org, discuss...@es.openoffice.org References: <4d0e8d6b.7090...@openoffice.org> Hello Peter, Alexandro is one of the main sponsors of oooES. Threre was a lot of discussion and disagreement in the Spanish list about the promotion of the oooES project, privately held by a few people, as an alternative to OOo, as the promotion has been done inside of OOo itself. There has not been any consensus in the Spanish Community about how the Spanish site has been managed. On the contrary, a bitter discussion has been started about the attempt to migrate OOo users to the oooES site and the way the lists have been used to try to get that. If anyone browses the discuss Spanish list recent archives he will find lots of messages claiming for a conflict of interests with Alexandro and other Southamerican regional marcom leaders because of the oooES site and their involvement in TDF. I essentially agree your POV and I'm sure many other people who doesn't read the English lists would too. Best Regards, Ramon --------------------------------------- Hola Peter, Alexandro es uno de los promotores principales de oooES. Ha habido mucha discusión y desacuerdo en las lista españolas sobre la promoción del proyecto oooES, bajo el control de unas pocas personas, como una alternativa a OOo, dado que la promoción se ha realizado internamente desde OOo. No ha habido consenso en la conunidad española sobre como se ha manejado el sitio español. Al contrario, se ha abierto una discusión bastante agria sobre el intento de mover los usuarios de OOo al sitio oooES y la forma como se han utilizado las listas para probar de conseguirlo. Cualquiera que hojee los archivos recientes de la lista de discuss en español encantrará muchos mensajes quejándose por un conflicto de intereses por parte de Alexandro y otros marcom lideres de regiones sudamericanas por el caso del sitio oooES y su involucración con TDF. Yo estoy esencialmente de acuerdo con tu punto de vista y estoy seguro de que muchas otras personas que no leen las listas en inglés también lo estarían. Un saludo, Ramon --------------------------------------- Peter Junge wrote: > <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Alexandro > The problem I have with oooES is that it seems to build a parallel > universe to OOo. As I said before, the oooES project (I assume you are > one of the persons in charge) is using the mailing list page of the ES > project to detour users, while the native mailing lists are blanked out > although they are still active. ... > My concern is, that you seem to leave OOo to do your own thing with > OOoES. Hence, what would be the interest of OOo to be funding you? ... > > Would be great if others could comment on this, especially those from > the ES project. Of course, my POV may be wrong as I'm only taking an > outside view. > > Maybe it's not apparent, but the Marketing Project is insofar concerned > and an auditor --not for the NLCs, but for e.g. you-- as travel funding > are coming from the Marketing budget. > > Best regards, > Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
