That was the plan.... 3 years ago we decided to warn first and then switch
on failing after a while... now is a good time, perhaps you could commit
the change to fail the build?

On 10 October 2014 13:48, Michael Osipov <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, resposibility isn't always good.
>
> Shouldn't simply make the build fail instead of log when such a collision
> happens?
>
> Michael
>
> > Thankfully for you, you are not on the PMC... if you were on the PMC and
> > you did such a search you would then have to go and send C&Ds.
> >
> > /me runs away from this thread in case I happen to be made aware of any
> > trademark misuse ;-)
> >
> > On 10 October 2014 13:39, Stephen Connolly <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes
> > >
> > > On 10 October 2014 13:12, Michael Osipov <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> If you do a quick search on Central, you'll that even other Apache
> project
> > >> don't adhere to this convention. Should they receive a C&D too?
> > >>
> > >> Michael
> > >>
> > >> > We just need to show best effort to defend our trademark... if we
> *see*
> > >> > anyone doing that then we have to send them C&D letters...
> > >> >
> > >> > Note: my understanding is that we only have to send C&D letters
> when we
> > >> > know somebody is abusing our mark... we don't necessarily have to go
> > >> > actively looking for people abusing our mark... just if we went
> looking
> > >> and
> > >> > found any then we have to send them C&Ds quite quickly
> > >> >
> > >> > On 10 October 2014 12:45, Benson Margulies <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Stephen Connolly
> > >> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > > > We, the PMC, agreed to allow permitted usage of the form
> > >> ___-maven-plugin
> > >> > > > as that clarified that the plugin was a plugin for maven not one
> > >> produced
> > >> > > > by maven
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yea, I know, and I'm not opposed to making the tooling more
> > >> > > obstreperous. I'm just warning people not to have high hopes of
> > >> > > enforcement for anyone who chooses to hack the tooling and not
> > >> > > cooperate.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On 10 October 2014 12:40, Benson Margulies <
> [email protected]>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Keep in mind that what we have here is almost certainly a
> > >> > > >> _convention_, not a point of trademark law. As I understand it,
> > >> we'd
> > >> > > >> as likely be laughed at for the suggestion that reversing the
> > >> order of
> > >> > > >> the components of a name leads to 'marketplace confusion' at
> the
> > >> level
> > >> > > >> at which trademarks can be enforced.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Michael Osipov <
> > >> [email protected]>
> > >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >> >> They should rename going forward.
> > >> > > >> >>
> > >> > > >> >> At some point (probably we could do so now) we will turn on
> > >> > > enforcement
> > >> > > >> in
> > >> > > >> >> the maven-plugin-plugin.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > This will of course piss of a lot of people. Wouldn't it?
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > There are, of course, several reasons why people can't:
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > 1. Popularity of the old name
> > >> > > >> > 2. Technical reasons
> > >> > > >> > 3. Name collisions
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > etc.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Even if we enforce this, this should not happen before Maven
> 4
> > >> and
> > >> > > >> should be added to the plugin dev center.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Michael
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
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