I also have such feeling that Maven became a playground. Last week I saw it in reality and after Robert told me we made playground in our sources I could not believe this could happen in such professional project like Maven.
I would appreciate it if the change [1] e5a6b9c8d4f514100a01dea2acf1fb059e294968 was reverted in Surefire and a new pull request was open at GitHub making the code review. I use to do this with myself with big changes and I am waiting for anyone in the PR. We are doing the same with one excellent guy from another ASF project who is supporting us with JUnit 5 addons and this works pretty well. The situation in Surefire is quite ambitious to release Versions 2.19.2 and 3.0.0-RC1 in parallel with 2.19.3 JDK9 support and JUnit 5 support now in January. The problem is that these Surefire three plugins are so easy to crash with whatever changes and therefore I implemented dumping internal errors to dump files which will help us investigate two Jira issues - critical and blocker. And there are much more thinks to talk about the features... I would really appreciate if we could behave like ordinal users in our project and provide a pull request in GitHub and call for code review. This does not mean only Surefire. So now please revert last change [1] and let's start from the ground. We should again learn from the beginning and start communicating in the community; otherwise this is the end of the project. [1] https://git1-us-west.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven-surefire.git&a=commit&h=e5a6b9c8d4f514100a01dea2acf1fb059e294968 We can talk about more visions, or I can open Wiki for such talks which I think we will appreciate because everybody can add her/his visions. WDYT? Cheers Tibor
