Would it be possible to handle this in a somewhat similar way to threadSafe
mojos - some form of plugin flag that says "extensionSafe" [1], that if the
plugin has <extensions>true</extensions> declared and doesn't declare
itself as being extensionSafe/extensionAware then we log a build warning -
it wouldn't solve anything, other than giving some feedback to users some
indication of WHY their build fails under 3.5.1 - and to either remove
<extensions> or fix/update their plugins.

[1] Or even just infer the applicability of extensions by the presence of
custom lifecycles, or Mojos implementing the extension interfaces ( it's
midnight, and a hazy tired thought ).

-- 
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Porcupine Tree

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> wrote:

> Based on Igor's feedback I'm changing my vote to +1.
>
> Having this class loader change in a bug fix release is probably not
> (semver) ideal though.
>
> /Anders
>
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Igor Fedorenko <i...@ifedorenko.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I answered in more details on m2e-dev, but I believe we can compensate
> > for the change from m2e end. In the worst case we'll bundle hacked
> > version of DefaultClassRealmManager with m2e, not ideal, but not the end
> > of the world either.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Igor
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017, at 07:21 AM, Anders Hammar wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reporting back from tests of m2e with embedded Maven 3.5.1, we see
> > problem
> > > > with the jaxws-maven-plugin mojo. We're two people seeing the issue
> > > > independently, but unfortunately Fred Bricon hasn't been able to
> > reproduce.
> > > >
> > >
> > > To follow up on this, my tests indicate that Maven 3.5.1 causes changed
> > > class loading that could cause issues for plugins in m2e. I've asked
> for
> > > input from the m2e devs if it is possible to handle in m2e but they
> > > haven't
> > > responded yet.
> > >
> > > /Anders
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > So currently I'm 0 on the voting but I'll investigate some more.
> > > >
> > > > /Anders
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Stephen Connolly <
> > > >> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Have we got any feedback from the embedder integrations yet?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> I haven't heard anything from the m2e people. Maybe we need to ping
> > them
> > > >> directly. I can contact Fred Bricon.
> > > >>
> > > >> /Anders
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon 11 Sep 2017 at 22:57, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > just for the records: it is Windows + Git Bash (MINGW64) only
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > and there is a chance that adding -Djansi.force=true can force
> > JAnsi
> > > >>> > activation (even if JAnsi fails to detect that it should
> > auto-activate)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > details on issue in https://issues.apache.org/
> jira/browse/MNG-6282
> > ,
> > > >>> and a
> > > >>> > future JAnsi issue...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Regards,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Hervé
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Le lundi 11 septembre 2017, 12:53:46 CEST Stephen Connolly a
> écrit
> > :
> > > >>> > > So that is windows only, or were they lost on other OSes for
> you.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > I have colours on linux (via docker) and os-x
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > On 11 September 2017 at 12:35, dejan2...@gmail.com <
> > > >>> dejan2...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > wrote:
> > > >>> > > > +1 (conditionally).
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > Tested via project that includes dozen of plugins: 1st tier,
> > > >>> MojoHaus
> > > >>> > and
> > > >>> > > > few 3rd party plugins (so to say).
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > Everything looks good with one notable regression:
> > > >>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6282 Console
> output
> > has
> > > >>> no
> > > >>> > > > colors (regression in Maven 3.5.1)
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > Regards,
> > > >>> > > > Dejan
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > On 2017-09-10 17:39, Stephen Connolly <
> > > >>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > wrote:
> > > >>> > > > > Hi,
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > We solved 25 issues:
> > > >>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > version=12338964&styleName=Text&projectId=12316922
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > There are 350 issues left in JIRA for Maven core:
> > > >>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > 3D%20MNG%20AND%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20ORDER%
> > > >>> > > > 20BY%20due%20ASC%2C%20priority%20DESC%2C%20created%20ASC
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Staging repo:
> > > >>> > > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-
> > 1364/
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > The distributable binaries and sources can be found here:
> > > >>> > > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven->
> >
> > > >>> > > > 1364/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.5.1/
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Specifically the zip, tarball and source archives can be
> > found
> > > >>> here:
> > > >>> > > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven->
> >
> > > >>> > > > 1364/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.5.1/apache-maven-3.5.1-
> > > >>> bin.zip
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven->
> >
> > > >>> > > > 1364/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.5.1/apache-maven-3.5.1-
> > > >>> bin.tar.gz
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven->
> >
> > > >>> > > > 1364/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.5.1/apache-maven-3.5.1-
> > > >>> src.zip
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven->
> >
> > > >>> > > > 1364/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.5.1/apache-maven-3.5.1-
> > > >>> src.tar.gz
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Source release checksum(s):
> > > >>> > > > > apache-maven-3.5.1-src.tar.gz sha1:
> > > >>> 9eb821f153c7667194aa11ccd099b7
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > bd2059560d
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > apache-maven-3.5.1-src.zip: sha1:
> > 121d54b045380a8a4895eb137970ab
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > 69e698eb0e
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Git tag:
> > > >>> > > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=
> > commit;h=
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > 094e4e31a5af55bb17be87675da41d9aeca062f3
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Staging site:
> > > >>> > > > > https://maven.apache.org/components/ref/3-LATEST/
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Vote open for 72 hours.
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > [ ] +1
> > > >>> > > > > [ ] +0
> > > >>> > > > > [ ] -1
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Thanks,
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Stephen.
> > > >>> > > >
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