Looks like the magic words are "pipeline steps". Why that isn't linked
directly from the failures and why one has to go hunting through
inobviously named menus, I don't know; but that's a Jenkins issue, not
a Maven one. I do think it would be worth revisiting our choice of CI
servers one of these days. Jenkins has fallen far behind the state of
the art, but that's a subject for another thread.

On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 11:48 AM Bernd Eckenfels <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> As long as we have windows builds and jdk15+ builds I guess one can reduce 
> the flaky combinations but it would still be interesting to see what’s the 
> problem is, in the pipeline steps view you see the failed step
>
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Maven/job/maven-box/job/maven-dependency-plugin/job/null/2/flowGraphTable/
>
> And it’s console log
>
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Maven/job/maven-box/job/maven-dependency-plugin/job/null/2/execution/node/315/log/
>
> I complains about a unexpected dependency tree (this does not really look 
> platform-version specific, maybe more a repository issue?)
>
> Gruss
> Bernd
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> Von: Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]>
> Gesendet: Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:37:18 PM
> An: Maven Developers List <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: Build windows-jdk15
>
> Here's one example:
>
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Maven/job/maven-box/job/maven-dependency-plugin/job/null/
>
> There are many others. Nothing changed between the three runs. First
> Windows JDK 15 failed. Then Windows JDK 7 failed. Then they all
> passed. No code changes were made between the runs. If there's a way
> to see the logs from the failed runs, it's far from obvious to me.
>
> Flaky build infrastructure is dangerous because it teaches developers
> to ignore the CI.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:38 PM Robert Scholte <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > What's you analysis?
> > Did you inform INFRA?
> > If we have issues with these versions, most likely Maven users will have to.
> >
> > We've seen this in the past too and I think all the time I'm been able to 
> > bring the builds back to blue.
> > Disabling would be avoiding or ignoring the problem.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Robert
> > On 30-12-2020 14:59:16, Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The Windows JDK 15 instance in jenkins seems irredeemably flaky. It
> > fails more often than not for reasons that have nothing to do with the
> > code being tested.
> >
> > As JDK 15 is not a long term support release, and has only minimal
> > adoption, can we simply turn off the Windows JDK 15 build?
> >
> > Personally, I'd love to turn off all JDK 15 and 16 builds, but Windows
> > JDK 15 is by far the worst.
> >
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