And the next run everything passed without any code changes:

https://ci-builds.apache.org/blue/organizations/jenkins/Maven%2Fmaven-box%2Fmaven-dependency-plugin/detail/null/3/pipeline




On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 6:04 PM Robert Scholte <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Have you tried 
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/blue/organizations/jenkins/Maven%2Fmaven-box%2Fmaven-dependency-plugin/detail/null/2/pipeline
>  ?
> It shows the output of the failing IT. It expects verbose information, but it 
> is missing.
>
>
> Robert
> On 31-12-2020 13:29:54, Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm not sure we're looking at the same thing.
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Maven/job/maven-box/job/maven-dependency-plugin/job/null/
> shows three runs of the same most recently committed code. The first
> two failed flakily on different instances and passed on all other
> instances. The third passed on all instances. Master is also passing
> and has been for the last few days/commits.Where are you seeing a
> failure?
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 12:13 PM Robert Scholte wrote:
> >
> > Looks like the IT for is failing MDEP-644[1].
> > Elliotte, you closed this one, but I'm missing some important information 
> > in this ticket: a link to the commit.
> > Now it is hard to figure out if there's a SNAPSHOT issue in play.
> > You see these kind of failures if branches of a SNAPSHOT dependency use the 
> > same version.
> > This would be my first guess.
> > But the failure is correct and is most likely unrelated to INFRA, but an 
> > issue with either the POM or the IT.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MDEP-644
> > On 31-12-2020 12:48:26, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > As long as we have windows builds and jdk15+ builds I guess one can reduce 
> > the flaky combinations but it would still be interesting to see what’s the 
> > problem is, in the pipeline steps view you see the failed step
> >
> > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Maven/job/maven-box/job/maven-dependency-plugin/job/null/2/flowGraphTable/
> >
> > And it’s console log
> >
> > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Maven/job/maven-box/job/maven-dependency-plugin/job/null/2/execution/node/315/log/
> >
> > I complains about a unexpected dependency tree (this does not really look 
> > platform-version specific, maybe more a repository issue?)
> >
> > Gruss
> > Bernd
> > --
> > http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> > ________________________________
> > Von: Elliotte Rusty Harold
> > Gesendet: Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:37:18 PM
> > An: Maven Developers List
> > Betreff: Re: Build windows-jdk15
> >
> > Here's one example:
> >
> > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Maven/job/maven-box/job/maven-dependency-plugin/job/null/
> >
> > There are many others. Nothing changed between the three runs. First
> > Windows JDK 15 failed. Then Windows JDK 7 failed. Then they all
> > passed. No code changes were made between the runs. If there's a way
> > to see the logs from the failed runs, it's far from obvious to me.
> >
> > Flaky build infrastructure is dangerous because it teaches developers
> > to ignore the CI.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:38 PM Robert Scholte wrote:
> > >
> > > What's you analysis?
> > > Did you inform INFRA?
> > > If we have issues with these versions, most likely Maven users will have 
> > > to.
> > >
> > > We've seen this in the past too and I think all the time I'm been able to 
> > > bring the builds back to blue.
> > > Disabling would be avoiding or ignoring the problem.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Robert
> > > On 30-12-2020 14:59:16, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> > > The Windows JDK 15 instance in jenkins seems irredeemably flaky. It
> > > fails more often than not for reasons that have nothing to do with the
> > > code being tested.
> > >
> > > As JDK 15 is not a long term support release, and has only minimal
> > > adoption, can we simply turn off the Windows JDK 15 build?
> > >
> > > Personally, I'd love to turn off all JDK 15 and 16 builds, but Windows
> > > JDK 15 is by far the worst.
> > >
> > > --
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