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2007/8/31, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> On 31 Aug 07, at 9:58 AM 31 Aug 07, Raphaël Piéroni wrote:
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> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Could it be some work done on integrating archetypes for maven 2.1 ?
> >
>
> Archetype should stand completely on its own. Should have nothing to
> do with 2.1.


Agree

> What i am thinking about is to enhance the settings model to permit
> > plugins to access some configuration when used without a project.
> >
>
> Sure, that's fine but it should all be the same to the underlying
> Archetype components. How the parameters get to Archetype is arbitrary.
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> > Like the repositories defined in active profiles.
> > Like plugin configuration like in project.build.plugins but only
> > when called
> > without a project.
> > Like the list of archetype groups like for the plugins.
> >
>
> So you're just asking for changes in Maven to make getting better
> information to Archetype easier?


Exactly


> Is that premature (for maven 2.2+), or offtopic in this thread ?
> >
> > Some inlined comments follow.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Raphaël
> >
> >
> > 2007/8/31, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>
> >> As I noted before, if the ITs are reasonably under control with a way
> >> for people to make them and submit them then I will cut alphas
> >> everyday.
> >>
> >> Brian is pretty much done. Is that true Brian on the Archetype front?
> >
> >
> > The archetypeng code has moved to apache/maven/sandbox
> >
> > And you were supposed to figure out the JIRA workflow and I am
> >> supposed to do the patch submission policy.
> >>
> >> After this we just warn people and we can cut releases on a weekly
> >> basis.
> >>
> >> I don't think you can reasonably say what can be released when until
> >> people actually start doing some work. Until then we pump out alphas,
> >> my only two requirements were above to have some form of sanity for
> >> people to makes tests for us.
> >>
> >> On 31 Aug 07, at 8:58 AM 31 Aug 07, Brett Porter wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm looking to do a few things towards getting a 2.1 alpha out, and
> >>> wanted to look towards getting 2.1 itself a bit nearer. It seems
> >>> like we have too many things scheduled at the moment for 2.1, so
> >>> here are a few bits I've been looking at and was going to start
> >>> running through. Would be great to hear others thoughts.
> >>>
> >>> 1) 2.1-alpha-1 issues
> >>>
> >>> I would like to cut this back to just the following and start
> >>> working on them:
> >>> * current known regressions
> >>> * integration test failures
> >>> and move the rest to 2.1.x as the 2.1 sorting bucket
> >>>
> >>> Any objections?
> >>>
> >>> 2) 2.1 JIRA
> >>>
> >>> This has about 270 issues + a large number currently unreviewed
> >>> again for us all to go through. I think it needs to be cut down
> >>> dramatically - I'd say ~100 issues should be the target here.
> >>>
> >>> I would map it out as 2.1-alpha-2 thru alpha-4: the highest
> >>> priority / most addressable / related issues from 2.1.x and the
> >>> current 2.1-alpha-1, + the new features from the wiki. I think this
> >>> should be all we plan for 2.1 at this point, and move on to feature-
> >>> complete betas then. We'll also include stuff that gets addressed
> >>> through 2.0.x of course, and anything else that someone gets an
> >>> itch to fix or a patch lands for.
> >>>
> >>> Any objections? If others think this is the right approach, I'm
> >>> happy to go through and produce a list of what I think should
> >>> remain.
> >>>
> >>> 3) New features
> >>>
> >>> I believe we should categorise these as: required for 2.1, optional
> >>> for 2.1, and the rest as beyond 2.1. I think we should be
> >>> particularly conservative to make sure a 2.1 release happens sooner.
> >>>
> >>> IMO, the required are:
> >>> * decoupling maven-artifact (under way)
> >>> * IT problems
> >>> * shared build context (mostly done)
> >>> * profile activators (mostly done)
> >>> * repository mirroring (generally better ability to define
> >>> repositories, even without the artifact resolution changes)
> >>> * POM loading and building
> >>> * Toolchains
> >>> * Embedder
> >>> * Plugin packs (depends on POM loading as currently defined)
> >>>
> >>> and the optional are:
> >>> * java 5 annotations
> >>> * conflict resolvers
> >>> * artifact handling / artifact resolution spec
> >>> * repository security
> >>> * local repo separation
> >>> * use StAX
> >>>
> >>> I'm also going over the rest of the wiki stuff to help finish up
> >>> the things that still needed putting into the current layout and
> >>> have a couple of other comments. I'll get back to that over the
> >>> weekend.
> >>>
> >>> In my mind, I'd really like to see a realistic chance of 2.1
> >>> getting out this year, and planning to have 2 or 3 point releases
> >>> next year, each spending time addressing the key issues people
> >>> experience and those that get the most bang for our buck with the
> >>> open JIRAs.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts? Any volunteers? :)
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Brett
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Brett Porter - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Blog: http://www.devzuz.org/blogs/bporter/
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
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> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder and PMC Chair, Apache Maven
> >> jason at sonatype dot com
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> Thanks,
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> Jason
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Regards,

Raphaël

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