An option is to for POM converstion in the deploy plugin to reformat as
4.0.0 format, as the underlying model has not been changed. This would make
4.1.0-model-based projects metadatas available for pre-maven-2.0.9 users.

We could also consider removing unecessary infos from the deployed poms :

who cares what plugins are used to buidl the project, or what version of
chekstyle it uses ?
More confusing is when POMs use profiles : what profile where active during
artifaction deployment ? This can impact the transitive dependencies
resolution !

We could deploy a "generated" POM that reflects the enabled profiles and the
maven model used to build the artifact.

just my 2 cents...

Nico


2008/2/12, Gilles Scokart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I like very much the attributes syntaxe (after all, it is what we are
> already using in ivy ;-) ).
>
> Is your intention to use it in the sources pom only, or also in the
> published pom.  In the seconf case, how do you handle the problem of
> forward
> compatibility?  I mean, what will happen to all user that have an older
> client and that want to use the repository (being maven implementation, or
> alternate client like ivy or buildr)?
>
> However, I don't like very much the dependencyGroup tag.  I think it make
> the published pom more difficult to read from a program.  I would preffer
> to
> have the published pom as simple as possible.  There is already the
> properties, the parent poms, the DependencyMgt, etc. that force your pom
> parser to be very statefull.  I think it's enought.
>
> Moreover, I think DependencyGroup it might be a confusing.  In the first
> mail, I thought it was a logical grouping of your dependency, something
> like
> the ivy configuration into which you can group dependencies so that a
> single
> module can come with different group of dependencies in function of how
> you
> want to use it.
>
> I also see someone mentioning the need for excludes.  You can maybe take
> some ideas from ivy there (there is a transitivity="false" that you can
> add).
>
>
> Gilles
>
>
>
> 2008/2/11, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've always wanted to see an attribute based POM, so based on Nicolas'
> > suggestion I killed some time after waking up early this morning to do
> > it.
> >
> > JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3397
> >
> > Here is a build to try:
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~brett/apache-maven-2.0.9-SNAPSHOT-terse-bin.tar.gz
> > and svn branch:
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/components/branches/maven-2.0.x-terse
> >
> > Here are two different files for comparison (it halved the size):
> >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/archiva/trunk/pom.xml?content-type=text%2Fplain&view=co
> >
> >
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/archiva/trunk/pom-4.1.0.xml?content-type=text%2Fplain&view=co
> >
> > What I did is basically convert all the primitive types in the model
> > to attributes. I think more could be done (flattening lists, doing the
> > same for plugin configuration elements), but this gets a big win at
> > least in the dependencies section for minimal work.
> >
> > It should be completely backwards compatible. It detects v4.0.0 and
> > reads it like it used to (then internally converts to the 4.1.0 Java
> > model).
> >
> > Here's some notes on the implementation so far (again, go easy, I just
> > whipped this up today and it's not production ready):
> > - I see this as a stepping stone to the final solution. I've said this
> > before, but I think the POM should separate the build information from
> > the project metadata (particularly that stored in the repository). I
> > think we need to take baby steps towards that though.
> > - this could feasibly be applied to the settings and profile files too.
> > - I switched to StAX in the process. This is likely going to introduce
> > some small quirks we need to iron out (like the hack I added to parse
> > Trygve's name - why did we ever allow that!) I think ideally we'd use
> > the Xpp3Reader for 4.0.0 and the StaxReader for 4.1.0 for best
> > compatibility. This would also fix the problem in that I've just
> > removed the Xpp3Reader and so some plugins may choke. I'm sure the
> > release plugin won't be happy, for example.
> > - There is probably a slight performance overhead in reading v4 POMs
> > since it repopulates the model twice. I haven't measured it but if
> > it's an issue we could optimise the reader/converter. It also adds
> > about 200k to the maven-model JAR.
> > - It is very close to detecting based on namespace so we could enforce
> > the use of that instead.
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brett
> >
> > --
> > Brett Porter
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> >
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