Jason van Zyl wrote:

> I think we're going to have two major user stories here, people who
> take the last released IT bundle and run it to validate and people who
> check out the sources and build everything and run the ITs.

Not sure you fully understand the problem I was referring to. There is a
third party of users affected by the stub plugins: Those that do their
regular builds (i.e. at work and completely unrelated to our ITs) and
don't follow the best practice of locking down plugin versions. Those
users will encounter problems with their builds because of getting the
stub versions (when the repo marks them as latest).

While I don't consider their potential build problems due to using the
stubs to be our fault, I believe it's advisable to shield the stubs from
the normal users as John suggested to prevent rant or bug reports towards
Maven like seemed to have happend after infra purged the snapshot repo.

> Like I said in our own ITs using snapshot versions of the stubs I
> don't think makes a lot of sense.

Agreed.

> The stub is in such a high degree of flux we can't release it?

I consider those particular core plugin stubs quite stable. If you look at
their code, they basically create a touch file to allow checking by the
Verifier that the goal was run. The stubs aren't meant to mimic the real
plugins in any other way. Dependency resolution, forking or whatever the
real plugins do and we might want to test should be handled by other IT
plugins, again as John previously suggested to keep IT plugins easy to
understand and maintainable. So their current impl shouldn't change
(unless for bugfixing).


Benjamin


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