1 if a pom builds with model 4.1, then you can't build with older versions of maven

2 from 1 we see that if we reference a parent, that parent must be <= our model version

3. if we are not using the pom as a parent, most of the information in the pom is redundant (certainly the build and reporting sections, the distribution management, dependencyManagement, and possibly the scm section)

4. perhaps classifiers are the way out, deploy a trimmed down pom with no classifier and the full pom with a classifier of v4.1

that way we look for the v4.1 pom if we are looking up the parent of a v4.1 pom, otherwise all we really care about is the license and transitive dependencies.

5. what about exclusions of transitive dependencies?

if foo depends on bar [1.1,) and excludes commons-logging:commons- logging

what happens when bar 2.0 changes dependencies to org.apache.commons:logging... now the exclusion from transitives expressed in the original pom does not work any more!

foo may not have control over bar, and if foo declares a hard dependency on bar [1.1] to ensure it's exclusion rule is always correct, version ranges become useless

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On 22 Nov 2008, at 13:12, "nicolas de loof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

considering the issue with a new modelVersion, that would not be readable by
previous Maven versions,
What about enhancing the deploy plugin to rewrite the POM that gets deployed
as 4.0.0 ?

example : suppose we create a new <globalExclusion> element in modelVerison 4.1.0. This could be translated to setting the exclusion to ALL dependencies in the POM, and writing this one back as 4.0.0. Not very nice, but who cares about the beauty of POMs on central ? They are use by maven as metadata sources, not by human beeing. only the POM in project SCM has interest for
humans !

This requires 4.x modelVersion to be translatable to 4.0.0, but this could
introduce some interesting enhancements to POM that are blocked today.

2nd Idea (more complex) : could a maven extension post-process the POM ?
example :
My (custom) POM uses a dedicated namespace for some extension feature :

<project>
 ...
 <ext:globalExclusion xmlns:ext="someURI"
artifact="commons-logging:commons-logging">
 ...
 <extension>
   <groupId>org.apache.maven.extensions</>
   <artifactId>globalexclusion</>
   <version>..</>
 <extension>
</

Note : I suppose the default parser will ignore this unexpected <ext:
element.

after parsing this POM, globalexclusion extension, that implements some PostProcessor API could modify the parsed Model object, and in my example
add an exclusion to all declared dependencies.

Just some week-end ideas ;)

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