There is only one team, the Maven team. 

However I think it's fair to ask that people be careful when changing
things that are being actively developed by another person, at least
over-communicate to avoid collisions. AFAIK, the issue was resolved
already by both sides.

-----Original Message-----
From: Arnaud HERITIER [mailto:aherit...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:58 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: sometimes too much help is not helping - r725533

Hi,

  In this thread you are talking about several teams. I'm considering
there
is only one maven team. If this not the case is there someone who can
explain to me which teams we have and who is working in which ?

  cheers

Arnaud.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Oleg Gusakov
<oleg.subscripti...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Brett,
>
> Trust me, I don't enjoy this discussion no more that you, but I have
to
> respond.
>
> Brett Porter wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry you lost some time investigating it, but I made every
attempt to
>> do this properly.
>>
>> At the time I made the change, I cleaned out the checkout and did a
build
>> without getting any test errors. This was confirmed by the grid:
>> https://grid.sonatype.org/ci/view/Mercury/job/mercury-ant/6/
>>
>> It appears your change to test using compilation was only checked in
>> afterwards. I'm afraid I'm still working on my ability to predict the
future
>> :)
>>
> This statement suggests that I am a dumb coder, who submits tons of
jars to
> SVN for the pleasure of just having them there. I admit that I did not
> commit the tests using those jars right away.
>
> But give me some credit: everything has a reason. And if this reason
is not
> clear - ask, don't assume you know everything and can improve without
> knowing. I did acknowledge your suggestion about the size of test
repo, and
> started fixing it. If you would have just suggested the solution,
provided a
> script in jira - that would only raise a lot of gratitude.
>
> But hindering a pre-alpha quality project by assuming things and
changing
> still unstable data, this is simply not fair. Losing a day over such a
> trivial matter - I simply did not expect anyone to do such a thing.
>
> I apologize if this sounds harsh, but believe me - the sole purpose is
to
> improve our process, make sure that this does not happen in the
future.
>
> So the proposal is: change the rules to say the following: "if you
don't
> work on an actively developed project - don't start modifying it
without
> consulting the team, working on it. If you do find a bug or
improvement -
> communicate with developers via issue tracking system and other means"
This
> is not predicting the future - just common sense.
>
> Thanks,
> Oleg
>
>
>
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