On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote:

> On 2 November 2010 12:08, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> 
>>> I think we should have a separate discussion on what our SLA with the
>>> Maven users should be / can be.
>>> 
>> 
>> I think following the Eclipse process is wise. We're not going to come up 
>> with anything better. They have delivered consistently for 10 years on 
>> schedule. We're open source but all of our users are enterprises and 
>> businesses. Thus all of our contributions are going to come from these 
>> people and there is an expectation of a release process and social contracts 
>> that I believe Eclipse has gotten right.
>> 
> 
> Call a vote, let's see what happens
> 
> I am not opposed to the eclipse process, but rather than saying, oh
> nothing ever happens at apache, call a vote and lets see what happens,

Nothing does ever happen. That's empirically evident at least here.

But I'm fine having a vote, we certainly can't do less so there's no harm.

> OK?
> 
> -Stephen
> 
>>> Once we decide on our initial SLA (we can always increase our SLA
>>> afterwards) then we decide what we can keep in agreement with that
>>> SLA.
>>> 
>>> as for punishment, there is no point in punishment without hope of
>>> redemption.  We would need a mechanism whereby the -1's who fail to
>>> step up and maintain their favourite plugins can recover their vote...
>>> and all that needs to be defined before we think about punishment
>>> 
>>> -Stephen
>>> 
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Thanks,

Jason

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