On Nov 2, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Brian Fox wrote:

> I don't see why it would be any different than if you took that same
> code from an svn patch in Jira.

Have you actually used Git with someone else, or processed a pull request?

> The point is that there's a threshold
> to a code contribution that requires an ip review process.

At Apache? There is no IP review process. What are you talking about?

To sign a contribution agreement, sure. There is zero IP review here.

> The
> mechanism if it's a patch file or a pull request shouldn't matter if
> we trust the committers to do the right thing here. I know i'm tired
> of applying outdated patches....yes to some extent Brett is right that
> if we were more timely they wouldn't be stale.

You two are completely missing the point in that operating in Git and working 
with other via pull requests is the difference between "Well, that will only 
take a minute to try and merge and run it" and "... ah, shit I'll just look at 
that later" I find the mental barrier starkly different because it literally 
takes a matter of seconds with Git to know whether it works. There is one path. 
Where processing patches in JIRA is fraught with possible errors every step 
along the way. So I would say that attribute might make it more appealing for 
time strapped people to process contributions. There's a world of difference 
between taking a patch from JIRA and mucking around and processing a pull 
request.

How about you guys setup what you like with plugins, with outreach and 
processing patches. Give it your best. And I'll work on Polyglot Maven, Maven 
Shell, and some new plugins at Github and we'll empirically compare the results.

> But at the same time
> it's a PITA to make a patch when you don't have some place to commit
> incremental changes.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is there a way we can utilise pull requests from github.org/apache and
>>>> still get them back to the svn repository so we can try this in a 
>>>> meaningful
>>>> way?
>> 
>> I thought any code stored in SVN but developed outside of Apache
>> requires going through the incubator to protect IP rights?
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
>> 
>> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
> 

Thanks,

Jason

----------------------------------------------------------
Jason van Zyl
Founder,  Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
---------------------------------------------------------

Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
signs of decline and decay.

 -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition



Reply via email to