Thanks a lot Stephen!!! As I previously wrote before, my main issue is that even I'm quiet familiar with maven and basic APIs (I can develop plugins) I don't know how internals work, if you have something to share I can read to get more confident I would really appreciate it, then I'll request of course to open a new sandbox :) Have a nice day, all the best!!! Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > FYI Simone, our sandbox is supposed to be open for all _APACHE_ > committers, so if you want to work on stuff you can just fork what you > are working on into the sandbox to show us your "skills of a hacker" > rather than having to live in patch land > > On 9 June 2011 22:17, Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org> wrote: >> Hi guys, >> I just accidentally and quickly had a look at the thread (got >> interested because saw Olivier in :P) and since I'm interested on >> contributing - and have been playing with @Inject & Guice extensions >> for a while[1][2][3][4][5] - I could provide my help. >> My BIG issue is I don't know Maven core at all :( Do you have useful >> references I can start reading in order to understand how it works and >> be useful? >> Many thanks in advance, have a nice day! >> Simo >> >> [1] http://99soft.github.com/rocoto/ >> [2] http://99soft.github.com/sli4j/ >> [3] http://99soft.github.com/guartz/ >> [4] http://code.google.com/p/mybatis/wiki/Guice >> [5] http://incubator.apache.org/bval/cwiki/obtaining-a-validator.html >> (see "Using Google Guice") >> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >> http://www.99soft.org/ >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote: >>> 2011/6/9 John Casey <jdca...@commonjava.org>: >>>> CC'ing dev@: I hope the PMC doesn't mind. >>>> >>>> We've been spending some time on-and-off talking about how we can open up >>>> development in the Maven core, and see if we can attract some fresh minds >>>> and ideas. I'd like to copy a list of some things we've been talking about, >>>> and open it up to anyone here on the dev list who has an opinion. >>>> >>>> This list is not meant to be comprehensive, that's the point! I (and >>>> others) >>>> would like to start the conversation about what we need to do to get more >>>> of >>>> the community involved in developing the core of Maven. >>>> >>>> If you're interested, please read on, and give us your thoughts! >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> On 6/8/11 8:18 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote: >>>>> >>>>> List of suggestions to improve hacking on the core >>>>> >>>>> * Move to a more sustainable architecture (Stephens started this with >>>>> plexus-utils) >>>> >>>>> * Upgrading Wagon (Mark) >>>> >>>>> * Open up access to the community somehow (suggested by Kristian) >>>> >>>>> * Draw in more developers to core (suggested by John) >>>> >>>>> * Component annotations via more standard notations (suggested by John) >>> >>> Agree to be not anymore dependant from the old good friend plexus. >>> I like to be able to use core components (ModelBuilder etc..) without >>> having to use plexus (now the sisu bridge) and being able to use in >>> other containers. (btw we won't be able to remove sisu bridge now) >>> Using @Inject standard looks nice too me. >>> >>>> >>>>> * do stuff that is interesting to others (see the reaction to the >>>>> mixin stuff I started) (suggested by Brett) >>>> >>>>> * apply patches from people that genuinely can help (suggested by Brett) >>>> >>>>> >>>>> John also suggested >>>> >>>>> - the Maven App Engine stuff I've been working on. which allows people >>>>> to cobble together Maven-based apps, and play around with the >>>>> different internal services / subsystems of Maven >>>> >>>> this is under: >>>> >>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/trunk/mae >>>> >>>> if anyone is interested... >>>> >>>>> - blogs explaining the way to do various tasks inside the core...how >>>>> different subsystems work, or something >>>> >>>> see below... >>>> >>>>> - putting together some sort of call for people to come help with >>>>> specific new features in the core, like versionless parents, multiple >>>>> POM syntaxes, etc... >>>> >>>> I think this thread is going to be the call...or at least, the first of >>>> many >>>> such calls. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here I think etc needs to be expanded :) >>>> >>>> Please, that's the point of the conversation...expand it! >>>> >>>>> p.s. I really like the idea of versionless parents that would save >>>>> some pain I'm feeling) >>>> >>>> I'm almost in favor of a more formalized parent/child dual POM syntax than >>>> versionless parents. Why not go all the way and recognize child POMs as the >>>> slave modules they are? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I disagree with blogs, but that may be a starting point. >>>> >>>> I was thinking about blogging as a way of answering specific >>>> engineering-related questions about how to get a particular thing done >>>> using >>>> Maven components. Or rather, how does Maven go about doing a particular >>>> task? >>>> >>>> Maybe this would turn into documentation eventually...but I almost see it >>>> as >>>> more of a forum at first. We have email for this, and that will be the >>>> eventual response, that we should use email...but blogs are so much more >>>> accessible from places like feedly and google. >>>> >>>>> I think we need to create documentation that is accessible from the >>>>> main site. Perhaps the tooling isn't quite there to do that easily. >>>>> Personally I'd love to see a beginners walkthrough of how maven is >>>>> architected with diagrams and links to the code. >>>> >>>> Yes, documentation is the bane of most open-source projects...and we >>>> certainly have a weakness there. Part of the documentation needs to be >>>> fueled by a wish list from the community though...I'm too close to things >>>> personally to know which parts aren't easy to understand. :-) >>>> >>>>> It's on my todo list, but that would require time to actually work on that >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Brett's last thing was "All good things to discuss on the dev list :)". >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Casey >>>> Developer, PMC Member - Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org) >>>> Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Olivier Lamy >>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
