> -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, 10 June 2011 10:12 AM > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: Get thee to the Core... > > Simone, can you please do one favour for me... > > Can you please try > > svn mkdir https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/trunk/simone- > test > -m "a test of sandbox access by a non-maven committer" > > and if that works then > > svn rm https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/trunk/simone- > test > -m "the test worked" > > I just want to check if the sandbox is still open.
According to the auth file: [/maven/sandbox] @committers = rw so thats a yes. Gav... > > On 9 June 2011 22:26, Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org> wrote: > > Thanks a lot Stephen!!! > > As I previously wrote before, my main issue is that even I'm quiet > > familiar with maven and basic APIs (I can develop plugins) I don't > > know how internals work, if you have something to share I can read to > > get more confident I would really appreciate it, then I'll request of > > course to open a new sandbox :) Have a nice day, all the best!!! > > Simo > > > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > > http://www.99soft.org/ > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Stephen Connolly > > <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> FYI Simone, our sandbox is supposed to be open for all _APACHE_ > >> committers, so if you want to work on stuff you can just fork what > >> you are working on into the sandbox to show us your "skills of a hacker" > >> rather than having to live in patch land > >> > >> On 9 June 2011 22:17, Simone Tripodi <simonetrip...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>> Hi guys, > >>> I just accidentally and quickly had a look at the thread (got > >>> interested because saw Olivier in :P) and since I'm interested on > >>> contributing - and have been playing with @Inject & Guice extensions > >>> for a while[1][2][3][4][5] - I could provide my help. > >>> My BIG issue is I don't know Maven core at all :( Do you have useful > >>> references I can start reading in order to understand how it works > >>> and be useful? > >>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice day! > >>> Simo > >>> > >>> [1] http://99soft.github.com/rocoto/ [2] > >>> http://99soft.github.com/sli4j/ [3] http://99soft.github.com/guartz/ > >>> [4] http://code.google.com/p/mybatis/wiki/Guice > >>> [5] > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/bval/cwiki/obtaining-a-validator.html > >>> (see "Using Google Guice") > >>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > >>> http://www.99soft.org/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>>> 2011/6/9 John Casey <jdca...@commonjava.org>: > >>>>> CC'ing dev@: I hope the PMC doesn't mind. > >>>>> > >>>>> We've been spending some time on-and-off talking about how we > can > >>>>> open up development in the Maven core, and see if we can attract > >>>>> some fresh minds and ideas. I'd like to copy a list of some things > >>>>> we've been talking about, and open it up to anyone here on the dev > list who has an opinion. > >>>>> > >>>>> This list is not meant to be comprehensive, that's the point! I > >>>>> (and others) would like to start the conversation about what we > >>>>> need to do to get more of the community involved in developing the > core of Maven. > >>>>> > >>>>> If you're interested, please read on, and give us your thoughts! > >>>>> > >>>>> --- > >>>>> > >>>>> On 6/8/11 8:18 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> List of suggestions to improve hacking on the core > >>>>>> > >>>>>> * Move to a more sustainable architecture (Stephens started this > >>>>>> with > >>>>>> plexus-utils) > >>>>> > >>>>>> * Upgrading Wagon (Mark) > >>>>> > >>>>>> * Open up access to the community somehow (suggested by > Kristian) > >>>>> > >>>>>> * Draw in more developers to core (suggested by John) > >>>>> > >>>>>> * Component annotations via more standard notations (suggested > by > >>>>>> John) > >>>> > >>>> Agree to be not anymore dependant from the old good friend plexus. > >>>> I like to be able to use core components (ModelBuilder etc..) > >>>> without having to use plexus (now the sisu bridge) and being able > >>>> to use in other containers. (btw we won't be able to remove sisu > >>>> bridge now) Using @Inject standard looks nice too me. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> * do stuff that is interesting to others (see the reaction to the > >>>>>> mixin stuff I started) (suggested by Brett) > >>>>> > >>>>>> * apply patches from people that genuinely can help (suggested by > >>>>>> Brett) > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> John also suggested > >>>>> > >>>>>> - the Maven App Engine stuff I've been working on. which allows > >>>>>> people to cobble together Maven-based apps, and play around with > >>>>>> the different internal services / subsystems of Maven > >>>>> > >>>>> this is under: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/trunk/mae > >>>>> > >>>>> if anyone is interested... > >>>>> > >>>>>> - blogs explaining the way to do various tasks inside the > >>>>>> core...how different subsystems work, or something > >>>>> > >>>>> see below... > >>>>> > >>>>>> - putting together some sort of call for people to come help with > >>>>>> specific new features in the core, like versionless parents, > >>>>>> multiple POM syntaxes, etc... > >>>>> > >>>>> I think this thread is going to be the call...or at least, the > >>>>> first of many such calls. > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Here I think etc needs to be expanded :) > >>>>> > >>>>> Please, that's the point of the conversation...expand it! > >>>>> > >>>>>> p.s. I really like the idea of versionless parents that would > >>>>>> save some pain I'm feeling) > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm almost in favor of a more formalized parent/child dual POM > >>>>> syntax than versionless parents. Why not go all the way and > >>>>> recognize child POMs as the slave modules they are? > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I disagree with blogs, but that may be a starting point. > >>>>> > >>>>> I was thinking about blogging as a way of answering specific > >>>>> engineering-related questions about how to get a particular thing > >>>>> done using Maven components. Or rather, how does Maven go about > >>>>> doing a particular task? > >>>>> > >>>>> Maybe this would turn into documentation eventually...but I almost > >>>>> see it as more of a forum at first. We have email for this, and > >>>>> that will be the eventual response, that we should use email...but > >>>>> blogs are so much more accessible from places like feedly and google. > >>>>> > >>>>>> I think we need to create documentation that is accessible from > >>>>>> the main site. Perhaps the tooling isn't quite there to do that easily. > >>>>>> Personally I'd love to see a beginners walkthrough of how maven > >>>>>> is architected with diagrams and links to the code. > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, documentation is the bane of most open-source projects...and > >>>>> we certainly have a weakness there. Part of the documentation > >>>>> needs to be fueled by a wish list from the community though...I'm > >>>>> too close to things personally to know which parts aren't easy to > >>>>> understand. :-) > >>>>> > >>>>>> It's on my todo list, but that would require time to actually > >>>>>> work on that list. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Brett's last thing was "All good things to discuss on the dev list :)". > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> John Casey > >>>>> Developer, PMC Member - Apache Maven > (http://maven.apache.org) > >>>>> Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For > >>>>> additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Olivier Lamy > >>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For > >>>> additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For > >>> additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For > >> additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For > > additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional > commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org