So I reformulate my question : 'how to be in the initial set of
committers ?" too late ?

2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>:
>
> On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Perso the license question doesn't matter a lot as long we have a
>> compatible one with ASF.
>> Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf distribs which contains ecj and/or
>> jetty so the Eclipse license is not a trouble for ASF products (sure
>> at least for me).
>> My main point is more regarding the governance model and the devs/pmcs
>> involved for those projects @eclipse.
>> If I look at the various proposals for aether [1] and sisu [2], the
>> initial set of committers doesn't show a diversity or a huge
>> community.
>>
>> So even if probably I won't be a huge committer, how will it be
>> possible to participate in the projects ?
>
> The process is more or less identical to Apache. The voting starts by a 
> committer nominating someone and the process is tracked in the portal where 
> votes are registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain of 
> committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC members are usually 
> committers. As committers vote, they are posted to the mailing list in 
> question so people can see the progress.
>
>> And probably some others Maven folks have the same question.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Olivier Lamy
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>>
>> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
>> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
>>
>>
>> 2011/8/18 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>:
>>> Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other person involved,
>>>
>>> Before voting on this issue, I'd like to get an idea what it means for us. 
>>> So please allow me a few questions:
>>>
>>> a.) how can appache maven committers anticipate on aether over at Eclipse? 
>>> What if someone (like me) likes to contribute, but wants to make sure that 
>>> his contributions are also possible to release separately under ALv2?
>>>
>>> b.) is it possible to operate aether without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or 
>>> plexus DI stuff is fine. Is there any direct guice depending code in aether?
>>>
>>> c.) will the package names remain com.sonatype or will they get changed to 
>>> org.eclipse.*? This is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel 
>>> the vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>>>
>>> d.) How long will it take to get the first aether release done at Eclipse?
>>>
>>> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get involved with that 
>>> stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be a big pro.
>>>
>>> txs and LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Anders Hammar <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core 
>>>> with EPL licenses - take 2
>>>> To: "Maven Developers List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 10:56 AM
>>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>>
>>>> /Anders
>>>>
>>>> 2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]>:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a
>>>> new vote with a better
>>>>> scope about what we are voting for.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at
>>>> Eclipse.org under EPL
>>>>> 1.0 license.
>>>>>  Before they were published under ASL or dual ASL/EPL
>>>> licenses thus as
>>>>> defined in our policy [1] this change put them in
>>>> Category B [2] and we need
>>>>> to validate this change by a vote with a majority of
>>>> the PMC in favor (but
>>>>> the vote is open to everybody).
>>>>>  I push only one vote for both dependencies as for
>>>> now I see no reason to
>>>>> accept one and not the other.
>>>>>  This vote will be open for 6 days as we are in
>>>> august (If we have not
>>>>> enough votes at the end of next wednesday will see if
>>>> we really need to
>>>>> extend it).
>>>>>
>>>>>  The vote :
>>>>>
>>>>>  [+1] I'm in favor to use as Maven core dependencies
>>>> SISU and AETHER libraries
>>>>> published under EPL 1.0 License and released under
>>>> eclipse.org governance
>>>>>  [+0] No opinion, do what you want.
>>>>>  [-1] I'm against because .... (please elaborate)
>>>>>
>>>>> Arnaud
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html
>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>>>>>
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> Thanks,
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> Jason
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