And me, please.

On 8/18/11 1:01 PM, Brian Fox wrote:
I'd like to be added as well please.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Jason van Zyl<ja...@maven.org>  wrote:
I'll get Wayne Beaton to add yourself and Olivier to the proposal.

On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:

Me also, or should we ask on the eclipse aether list? (is there such a list 
already?)

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy<ol...@apache.org>  wrote:

From: Olivier Lamy<ol...@apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core with 
EPL licenses - take 2
To: "Maven Developers List"<dev@maven.apache.org>
Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 2:34 PM
2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl<ja...@maven.org>:

On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:

So I reformulate my question : 'how to be in the
initial set of
committers ?" too late ?


Just ask. As I posted previously, anyone who wants to
be listed as a committer I will add.
Oups I missed.

So I ask.


2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl<ja...@maven.org>:

On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Olivier Lamy
wrote:

Hello,
Perso the license question doesn't matter
a lot as long we have a
compatible one with ASF.
Have a look at tomcat 7 or the cxf
distribs which contains ecj and/or
jetty so the Eclipse license is not a
trouble for ASF products (sure
at least for me).
My main point is more regarding the
governance model and the devs/pmcs
involved for those projects @eclipse.
If I look at the various proposals for
aether [1] and sisu [2], the
initial set of committers doesn't show a
diversity or a huge
community.

So even if probably I won't be a huge
committer, how will it be
possible to participate in the projects ?

The process is more or less identical to
Apache. The voting starts by a committer nominating someone
and the process is tracked in the portal where votes are
registered and tracked. Election of committers is the domain
of committers and the PMC has to approve the final vote. PMC
members are usually committers. As committers vote, they are
posted to the mailing list in question so people can see the
progress.

And probably some others Maven folks have
the same question.

Thanks,
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[1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
[2] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/


2011/8/18 Mark Struberg<strub...@yahoo.de>:
Jason, Brian, Benjamin or any other
person involved,

Before voting on this issue, I'd like
to get an idea what it means for us. So please allow me a
few questions:

a.) how can appache maven committers
anticipate on aether over at Eclipse? What if someone (like
me) likes to contribute, but wants to make sure that his
contributions are also possible to release separately under
ALv2?

b.) is it possible to operate aether
without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or plexus DI stuff is fine.
Is there any direct guice depending code in aether?

c.) will the package names remain
com.sonatype or will they get changed to org.eclipse.*? This
is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel the
vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.

d.) How long will it take to get the
first aether release done at Eclipse?

If there is a chilly way for maven
committers to get involved with that stuff over at Eclipse,
then this would be a big pro.

txs and LieGrue,
strub


--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar
<and...@hammar.net>
wrote:

From: Anders Hammar<and...@hammar.net>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of
Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core with EPL
licenses - take 2
To: "Maven Developers List"<dev@maven.apache.org>
Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011,
10:56 AM
+1 (non-binding)

/Anders

2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier<aherit...@gmail.com>:
Hi all,

  Thus as decided with Mark
and Kristian I relaunch a
new vote with a better
scope about what we are voting
for.

  Next releases of SISU and
Aether will be released at
Eclipse.org under EPL
1.0 license.
  Before they were published
under ASL or dual ASL/EPL
licenses thus as
defined in our policy [1] this
change put them in
Category B [2] and we need
to validate this change by a
vote with a majority of
the PMC in favor (but
the vote is open to
everybody).
  I push only one vote for
both dependencies as for
now I see no reason to
accept one and not the other.
  This vote will be open for 6
days as we are in
august (If we have not
enough votes at the end of
next wednesday will see if
we really need to
extend it).

  The vote :

  [+1] I'm in favor to use as
Maven core dependencies
SISU and AETHER libraries
published under EPL 1.0
License and released under
eclipse.org governance
  [+0] No opinion, do what you
want.
  [-1] I'm against because
.... (please elaborate)

Arnaud

[1] http://maven.apache.org/developers/dependency-policies.html
[2] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b



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