Am 2013-11-23 20:18, schrieb Stephen Connolly:
On Saturday, 23 November 2013, Michael-O <[email protected]> wrote:

Am 2013-11-23 19:02, schrieb Hervé BOUTEMY:

I updated https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Git+Migrationwith
.gitattributes instructions, and made a global cleanup
Seems like plugin-tools is ready for migration, or even did it without
having
the page updated

Now, I did not have any feedback about SCM report problems with git,
solutions
actually found (including link to github mirror): I added a section in the
page. Feedback appreciated


Then what do we really win with this git migration? Did it give us more
contributions?
I know what I lost (easy commit reference, SCM report, a lot of time
dealing
with unexpected state of my local clone, merge commit because bad rebase
habits, ...)
And nobody seems working on enhancements: Apache Jenkins has actually
issues
with git updates

I hope someone really wins something with this git migration, because I
really
don't see benefits for myself


In terms of contributions zero. If someone not keen enough to dig into
code and prepare a patch or are simply too lazy.

Now -- you need to fork, clone, push, create a pull request. Even more
work.

I don't see any benefit.


I often find the only time I get to work on maven is when I'm off-line. Svn
stopped me doing more work on doxia because I wanted to commit per issue,
not one big mess as I would have been trampling over myself.

But on the other hand I think the real issue is what our issue has been for
a long time... We are stuck with crappy modelVersion 4.0.0 until we get
past that we cannot significantly evolve and grow in the direction people
want to help us grow

How often do we have people chime in on the M/L with some suggestion or
wanting to try and fix something and we have to point out that we are still
stuck with the modelVersion 4.0.0 problem? I think it is about ever 2-3
weeks... That's 20 potential committers we've list this year

Git vs SVN is not the issue... The real issue is our major techical issue:
schema migration (and how to not screw over all the pom parsers who we
don't write but everyone else uses)... We've been dodging this issue for at
least 3-4 years now... I think once 3.2 is out the door we need to
finally tackle it head or give up and ask the board for the attic.

-Stephen (speaking person opinions, *not* as PMC chair)

True words.

Model 5.0.0 would require Maven 4.0 and cleanup of env vars like M2_HOME, .m2 m2.conf and so forth.

Otherwise you cannot break out of the current limitations without breaking people's stuff.


Michael


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