BTW, there is also somehow related ticket
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-930


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Benjamin Mahler
<benjamin.mah...@gmail.com>wrote:

> >
> > I thought the low-level api being referred in the
> > video had to do with communication between master and framework|executor
> > for scheduling.  But, it's really administrative.  I thought that would
> > have been an opportunity for a Go binding that did not require the C++
> > libraries.
> >
>
> Vladimir, the low-level API referred to in the talk is exactly what you're
> interpreting, it is for communication between master and scheduler, and
> slave and executor. You could definitely build pure go bindings as you
> described, just not with JSON.
>
> Forget I mentioned anything about the administrative endpoints and JSON, as
> I see that's leading to confusion. ;)
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:39 AM, Vladimir Vivien
> <vladimir.viv...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Ben,
> > Thank you for clarifying. I thought the low-level api being referred in
> the
> > video had to do with communication between master and framework|executor
> > for scheduling.  But, it's really administrative.  I thought that would
> > have been an opportunity for a Go binding that did not require the C++
> > libraries.
> >
> > Thanks anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Benjamin Mahler
> > <benjamin.mah...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, I was not referring to implementing a scheduler via JSON instead
> > of
> > > protobuf, in theory that would be possible but there has been no
> planning
> > > in this area. Sorry for the confusion.
> > >
> > > I was referring to administrative endpoints. For example, kicking a
> > > framework out or telling the master a slave is needs to be repaired.
> > These
> > > endpoints may rely on the ability to convert JSON to internal
> protobufs.
> > >
> > > Can you clarify what you're looking to do? Are you looking to implement
> > an
> > > API in Go that communicates with JSON instead of serialized protobuf?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Vladimir Vivien
> > > <vladimir.viv...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ben,
> > > > That is exactly what I am asking.
> > > > Is that something coming up soon, is there a JIRA I can look at?
> > > > I wanna get early start on a native json Go api or even help out if
> > > > possible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Benjamin Mahler
> > > > <benjamin.mah...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +vinod, benh
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Vladimir, there will be some authenticated REST endpoints at
> some
> > > > > point, there is some work in this area underway.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have the ability to encode protobuf messages as JSON, so the
> plan
> > > was
> > > > to
> > > > > have any REST endpoints directly use JSON to send us protobuf
> > messages.
> > > > I'm
> > > > > not sure if this is what you're asking though?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Vetoshkin Nikita <
> > > > > nikita.vetosh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not a mesos guy, just very curious. But in my opinion - I
> doubt
> > > it,
> > > > > > HTTP is synchronous request-response protocol. Mesos needs
> > something
> > > > more
> > > > > > robust for message passing. Websockets anyone? :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Vladimir Vivien
> > > > > > <vladimir.viv...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ben / Nikita
> > > > > > > Thanks for the pointers.
> > > > > > > So, (without digging yet) is it a fair summary to say that
> > > libprocess
> > > > > > wraps
> > > > > > > protobufs-encoded calls and push them over HTTP to
> master/slaves
> > ?
> > > > Will
> > > > > > > protobuf (eventually) be supplanted by direct HTTP via REST or
> > > > similar
> > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Vetoshkin Nikita <
> > > > > > > nikita.vetosh...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Or, just to get to know - you can take tcpdump and take a
> look
> > :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I personally wouldn't call that HTTP. Something "HTTP-like"
> > would
> > > > > > > describe
> > > > > > > > it better. Because it's not request-response. It's just
> message
> > > > > > passing,
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > need to wait for the answer - send new message one after
> > another.
> > > > > Every
> > > > > > > > message is POST with address and message type encoded in URI:
> > > POST
> > > > > > > > /executor(1)/mesos.internal.RunTaskMessage. Sender is encoded
> > in
> > > > > > > User-Agent
> > > > > > > > header, e.g: libprocess/slave(1)@127.0.0.1:5051. Body
> contains
> > > > > > protobuf
> > > > > > > > message, Transfer-Encoding is always "chunked".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Benjamin Mahler
> > > > > > > > <benjamin.mah...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Unfortunately you will need to learn this by looking at the
> > > code
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > > libprocess, as the message passing format is not explicitly
> > > > > > documented
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > the current time.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Start with calls like ProtobufProcess::send() and dig your
> > way
> > > > > down.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Vladimir Vivien
> > > > > > > > > <vladimir.viv...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I was watching this video from
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5GT7OFSh58from Ben
> where
> > he
> > > > > > talked
> > > > > > > > > > about the wire protocol for Mesos being done in
> > > > > > > > > > HTTP.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Where can I learn about the low-level wire protocol
> either
> > in
> > > > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > > > > or browsing through the code.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Vladimir Vivien
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Vladimir Vivien
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Vladimir Vivien
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Vladimir Vivien
> >
>

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