Hi Vinod, I am still interested in the project. As other folks said, we need to have a direction for the project. I think there are still a lot of Mesos users/customers in the mail list, can you please send another mail to collect their requirements / pain points on Mesos, and then we can try to set up a roadmap for the project to move forward.
Regards, Qian Zhang On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 9:16 PM Andrei Sekretenko <asekrete...@apache.org> wrote: > IIUC, Attic is not intended for projects which still have active users > and thus might be in need of fixing bugs. > > Key items about moving project to Attic: > > It is not intended to: > > - Rebuild community > > - Make bugfixes > > - Make releases > > >Projects whose PMC are unable to muster 3 votes for a release, who have > no active committers or are unable to fulfill their reporting duties to the > board are all good candidates for the Attic. > > As a D2iQ employee, I can say that if we find a bug critical for our > customers, we will be interested in fixing that. Should the project be > moved into Attic, the fix will be present only in forks (which might > mean our internal forks). > > I could imagine that other entities and people using Mesos are in a > similar position with regards to bugfixes. > If this is true, then moving the project to Attic in the near future > is not a proper solution to the issue of insufficient bandwidth of the > active PMC members/chair. > > --- > A long-term future of the project is a different story, which, in my > personal view, will "end" either in moving the project into Attic or > in shifting the project direction from what it used to be in the > recent few years to something substantially different. IMO, this > requires a _separate_ discussion. > > Damien's questions sound like a good starting point for that > discussion, I'll try to answer them from my committer/PMC member > perspective when I have enough time. > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 12:49, Charles-François Natali > <cf.nat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks Tomek, that's what I suspected. > > It would therefore make it much more difficult for anyone to carry on > since it would effectively have to be a fork, etc. > > I think it'd be a bit of a shame, but I understand Benjamin's point. > > I hope it can be avoided. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 11:02 Tomek Janiszewski, <jani...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Moving to attic is making project read only > >> https://attic.apache.org/ > >> https://attic.apache.org/projects/aurora.html > >> > >> czw., 18 lut 2021, 11:56 użytkownik Charles-François Natali < > cf.nat...@gmail.com> napisał: > >>> > >>> I'm not familiar with the attic but would it still allow to actually > >>> develop, make commits to the repository etc? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, 08:27 Benjamin Bannier, <bbann...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hi Vinod, > >>> > > >>> > > I would like to start a discussion around the future of the Mesos > >>> > project. > >>> > > > >>> > > As you are probably aware, the number of active committers and > >>> > contributors > >>> > > to the project have declined significantly over time. As of today, > >>> > there's > >>> > > no active development of any features or a public release planned. > On the > >>> > > flip side, I do know there are a few companies who are still > actively > >>> > using > >>> > > Mesos. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks for starting this discussion Vinod. Looking at Slack, mailing > >>> > lists, JIRA and reviewboard/github the project has wound down a lot > in > >>> > the last 12+ months. > >>> > > >>> > > Given that, we need to assess if there's interest in the community > to > >>> > keep > >>> > > this project moving forward. Specifically, we need some active > committers > >>> > > and PMC members who are going to manage the project. Ideally, > these would > >>> > > be people who are using Mesos in some capacity and can make code > >>> > > contributions. > >>> > > >>> > While I have seen a few non-committer folks contribute patches in the > >>> > last months, I feel it might be too late to bootstrap an active > >>> > community at this point. > >>> > > >>> > Apache Mesos is still mentioned prominently in the docs of a number > of > >>> > other projects which gives off the impression of an active and > >>> > maintained project. In reality almost nobody is working on issues or > >>> > available to help users, and basing a new project on Apache Mesos > these > >>> > days is probably not a good idea. I honestly do not see that to > change > >>> > should new people step up and IMO the most honest way forward would > be > >>> > to move the project to the attic to clearly communicate that the > project > >>> > has moved into another phase; this wouldn't preclude folks from > using or > >>> > further developing Apache Mesos, but would give a clear signal to > users. > >>> > > >>> > > If there is no active interest, we will likely need to figure out > steps > >>> > for > >>> > > retiring the project. > >>> > > > >>> > > *Call for action: If you are interested in becoming a committer/PMC > >>> > member > >>> > > (including PMC chair) and actively maintain the project, please > reply to > >>> > > this email.* > >>> > > >>> > Like I wrote above, I would be in favor of a vote to move Apache > Mesos > >>> > to the attic. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Cheers, > >>> > > >>> > Benjamin > >>> > >
