The latter.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 5:48 AM Shane Ardell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Nick - To be clear, when you say you can never get them all to pass, do you
> mean you can never get all the tests to pass without protractor flake
> re-running the failing tests (ie. eventually all the tests pass in the
> end), or do you mean you still have failing tests even after
> protractor-flake does its work? I want to look into this, but before I do I
> want to make sure I understand you correctly.
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:40 PM Casey Stella <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This is really good feedback, Nick. I agree, we need them to be reliable
> > enough to not be a source of constant false positives prior to putting
> them
> > into the checklist.
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 15:34 Nick Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I think we still have an issue of reliability.  I can never reliably
> get
> > > them all to pass.  I have no idea which failures are real.  Am I the
> only
> > > one that experiences this?
> > >
> > > We need a reliable pass/fail on these before we talk about adding them
> to
> > > the checklist.  For example, I just tried to run them on METRON-1771.
> I
> > > don't think we have a problem with these changes, but I have not been
> > able
> > > to get one run to fully pass.  See the attached output of those runs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 7:36 AM Shane Ardell <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I ran them locally a handful of times just now, and on average they
> took
> > >> approximately 15 minutes to complete.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 18:22 Michael Miklavcic <
> > [email protected]
> > >> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > @Shane Just how much time are we talking about, on average? I don't
> > >> think
> > >> > many in the community have had much exposure to running the e2e
> tests
> > in
> > >> > their current form. It might still be worth it in the short term.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:20 AM Shane Ardell <
> > [email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > The protractor-flake package should catch and re-run false
> failures,
> > >> so
> > >> > > people shouldn't get failing tests when they are done running. I
> > just
> > >> > meant
> > >> > > that we often re-run flaky tests with protractor-flake, so it can
> > >> take a
> > >> > > while to run and could increase the build time considerably.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 18:00 Casey Stella <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Are the tests so brittle that, even with flaky, people will run
> > upon
> > >> > > false
> > >> > > > failures as part of contributing a PR?  If so, do we have a list
> > of
> > >> the
> > >> > > > brittle ones (and the things that would disambiguate a true
> > failure
> > >> > from
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > > false failure) that we can add to the documentation?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 11:58 AM Shane Ardell <
> > >> [email protected]
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > I also would like to eventually have these tests automated.
> > There
> > >> > are a
> > >> > > > > couple hurdles to setting up our e2e tests to run with our
> > build.
> > >> I
> > >> > > think
> > >> > > > > the biggest hurdle is setting up a dedicated server with data
> > for
> > >> the
> > >> > > e2e
> > >> > > > > tests to use. I would assume this requires funding,
> engineering
> > >> > > support,
> > >> > > > > obfuscated data, etc. I also think we should migrate our e2e
> > >> tests to
> > >> > > > > Cypress first because Protractor lacks debugging tools that
> > would
> > >> > make
> > >> > > > our
> > >> > > > > life much easier if, for example, we had a failure in our CI
> > build
> > >> > but
> > >> > > > > could not reproduce locally. In addition, our current
> Protractor
> > >> > tests
> > >> > > > are
> > >> > > > > brittle and extremely slow.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > All that said, it seems we agree that we could add another PR
> > >> > checklist
> > >> > > > > item in the meantime. Clarifying those e2e test instructions
> > >> should
> > >> > be
> > >> > > > part
> > >> > > > > of that task.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:36 PM Casey Stella <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I'd also like to make sure that clear instructions are
> > provided
> > >> (or
> > >> > > > > linked
> > >> > > > > > to) about how to run them.  Also, we need to make sure the
> > >> > > instructions
> > >> > > > > are
> > >> > > > > > rock-solid for running them.
> > >> > > > > > Looking at
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/apache/metron/tree/master/metron-interface/metron-alerts#e2e-tests
> > >> > > > > > ,
> > >> > > > > > would someone who doesn't have much or any knowledge of the
> UI
> > >> be
> > >> > > able
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > > > run that without assistance?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > For instance, we use full-dev, do we need to stop data from
> > >> being
> > >> > > > played
> > >> > > > > > into full-dev for the tests to work?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Casey
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:29 AM Casey Stella <
> > [email protected]
> > >> >
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > I'm not super keen on expanding the steps to contribute,
> > >> > especially
> > >> > > > in
> > >> > > > > an
> > >> > > > > > > avenue that should be automated.
> > >> > > > > > > That being said, I think that until we get to the point of
> > >> > > automating
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > e2e tests, it's sensible to add them to the checklist.
> > >> > > > > > > So, I would support it, but I would also urge us to move
> > >> forward
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > > > efforts of running these tests as part of the CI build.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > What is the current gap there?
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Casey
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:41 AM Shane Ardell <
> > >> > > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> Hello everyone,
> > >> > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> In another discussion thread from July, I briefly
> mentioned
> > >> the
> > >> > > idea
> > >> > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > >> adding a step to the pull request checklist asking
> > >> contributors
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > run
> > >> > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > >> UI end-to-end tests. Since we aren't running e2e tests as
> > >> part
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > CI
> > >> > > > > > >> build, it's easy for contributors to unintentionally
> break
> > >> these
> > >> > > > > tests.
> > >> > > > > > >> Reminding contributors to run these tests will hopefully
> > help
> > >> > > catch
> > >> > > > > > >> situations like this before opening a pull request.
> > >> > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> Does this make sense to everyone?
> > >> > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> Regards,
> > >> > > > > > >> Shane
> > >> > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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