+1

This was well put Sangjin. After reading this I realized that may
deployments of AHC will have similar needs: sub-second timeouts are
critical.

Alex

On Feb 10, 2008 7:10 PM, Sangjin Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can see cases where one might need a very short connect timeout.  If
> your
> use case requires a very low fault tolerance and if you would rather fail
> calls than waiting for any longer than is necessary, then 1 second might
> not
> be an adequate minimum value.  The characteristic would be a high-load
> situation where low latency (i.e. high bandwidth) is normally expected and
> required.
> For example, if one set of services is making calls to another set of
> services within a single network (i.e. intranet) in high volumes, then the
> expectation on the latency is usually very low.  Normally calls should
> succeed within a very short amount of time.  Suppose the remote services
> start having problems and suddenly connects and reads are taking longer.
>  Having a short connect timeout and a short read timeout is a good way to
> *contain* that risk.  If connect timeout can only be 1 second or longer,
> then there would be many situations where the problems from that remote
> service will quickly spread over to any calling services and have a
> cascading effect...
>
> Thanks,
> Sangjin
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2008 12:39 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Sangjin Lee wrote:
> >
> > > I had a quick question on the connect timeout...
> > > The connect timeout supplied to connectors is in the unit of
> > > seconds, and it
> > > appears the minimum value you can use is 1 second (
> > > AbstractIoConnector.setConnectTimeout() in the case of the trunk).
> > > Is this
> > > by design?  I can see cases where one needs to have a shorter connect
> > > timeout, but it seems it is not possible today.  One solution might
> > > be to
> > > use ConnectFuture.join() with a timeout, but that works only if you
> > > want to
> > > block until it times out...
> > >
> > > It also seems that this minimum timeout value is somewhat tied to the
> > > timeout value used in the select() loop in the connector, which is
> > > hard
> > > coded to be 1 second.  Would it be a good idea to support connect
> > > timeout
> > > values in milliseconds, and make it shorter than 1 second?
> >
> > It doesn't matter to me but I'm just curious.  Why would one want a
> > timeout less than a second?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alan
> >
> >
>

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