On Feb 15, 2008 4:43 PM, Mike Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, Tapestry 4 ships with OGNL and Javassist, > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/tapestry/tapestry-project-4.1.5-bin.tar.gz > Why is this a problem for MINA? >
It does not matter what Tapestry ships with. I'd like to think the Tapestry PMC is doing the proper diligence before releases. Regardless we cannot base our decisions on the interpretation of Apache policy by other committees. Howard Ship, I know had some outstanding questions about this and it's what had triggered several discussions on third party licensing which the board is now considering. For the record, I want this M1 out more than anybody: so I don't want any red lights in our way. I just started using the JMX feature too and I cannot foresee living without it now. > Javassist can be redistributed under the MPL _or_ under the LGPL. It > doesn't have to be distributed under BOTH, see > http://labs.jboss.com/javassist/ > > I don't see this as a problem unless the board is deciding on whether or > not the MPL 1.1 is ok in spite of all the precedence. I don't think this page is set as official Apache policy: http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html I don't know if the work Cliff was doing ever got ratified. We can check and see but MPL from this guide is OK. So if this is official then we have no problem. BTW here's what the javassist pom says about the license: <name>MPL 1.1</name> <url> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/jboss/javassist/License.html?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/html </url> <comments> Dual-license; LGPL if downloaded as part of JBoss, MPL if downloaded separately. </comments> Also what's the license on OGNL?. I have not been able to find it. Alex Alex Karasulu wrote: > > FYI the board met a couple days ago I think to discuss this specific > issue > > of third party licenses. We should check and see what they concluded on > > this 3rd party licensing matter. > > > > Alex > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> Mike, thanks for your diligence on this release. > >> > >> However I might have some bad news tho: I hope I'm wrong. I just now > took > >> a cursory look at the dependencies. It seems we have some MPL/LGPL > >> dependencies unfortunately :(. Specifically the ognl integration > module > >> depends on ognl and that depends on javassist which is LGPL. I hope > I'm > >> wrong since I have not had time to completely verify. Could someone > double > >> check for me. I hope there's something we can do about it. > >> > >> Also let's make sure we do a good audit of the dependencies along with > RAT > >> runs. We may want to use the maven RAT plugin to automatically do this > for > >> us. > >> > >> Alex > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Mike Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> The vote has been closed and hare are the results. > >>> > >>> Binding +1s (7): > >>> > >>> Niklas Gustavsson > >>> Mike Heath > >>> Alex Karasulu > >>> Emmanuel Lécharny > >>> Trustin Lee > >>> Niklas Therning > >>> Julien Vermillard > >>> > >>> > >>> Non-binding +1s (8): > >>> > >>> Maarten Bosteels > >>> Frédéric Brégier > >>> Jeff Genender > >>> Brenno Hayden > >>> Edouard De Oliveira > >>> José Henrique de Oliveira Varanda > >>> Cameron Taggart > >>> Mark Webb > >>> > >>> > >>> I will try to get this release out this weekend. > >>> > >>> -Mike > >>> > >>> Mike Heath wrote: > >>>> Hello Community, > >>>> > >>>> It looks like Maarten has resolved DIRMINA-513. I don't see any > >>> reason > >>>> to hold up a 2.0-M1 release. > >>>> > >>>> There are a multitude of changes in MINA 2.0-M1, too many to > enumerate > >>>> in a single email. A laundry list of changes going into this release > >>>> can be found here > >>>> > >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel > >>>> This release should not be considered final nor entirely stable. It > >>> is > >>>> a release so that developers using MINA know what to expect in 2.0 as > >>>> well as help us to find bugs and deficiencies in the API. > >>>> > >>>> [ ]: +1, Release MINA 2.0-M1 > >>>> [ ]: 0, Abstain > >>>> [ ]: -1, Don't release MINA 2.0-M1 > >>>> > >>>> -Mike > >>>> > >>> > > > >
