Hi patrick, I recently raised an issue with the website to the team. I personally would like to see that fixed before a graduation. Specifically saying that you need to learn it from github.
John On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > Given the recent work to bring on additional RMs (and increase community > involvement in general) and clearly document release procedures I feel that > my previous concerns have been largely addressed. If there is interest in > the community I would now be in favor, but up to you - do you feel you're > ready to graduate at this point? > > Regards, > > Patrick > > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <ddu...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On the diversity issue, we are trying to solve that with new committers >> from different organizations. We have had contributions from other >> companies like Cisco recently. >> >> This space is about to heat up soon and we will see more committers. >> >> cheers >> debo >> >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > I've mentored a number of podlings over the years and this one if very >> well >> > run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my main concern is about >> > diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and self-governing >> communities". >> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community >> > That's pretty clear and concise statements from the Apache community as >> a >> > whole as to what it takes. The podling is following "the apache way" >> quite >> > well, so it's really the sustaining part for me. Ensuring that >> community is >> > being built and the community as a whole is owning the process. >> > >> > Hope this helps, regards, >> > >> > Patrick >> > >> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > For me the best test if a podling is ready for graduation is they do >> it >> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, Mnemonic, I'd encourage you to search >> > through >> > > the incubator mailing list archives for examples of other podlings >> > running >> > > a graduation vote and submitting the result to the IPMC. Then, do it. >> > > >> > > I'm glad to see the recent move to bring in more RMs in response to >> the >> > > earlier feedback, now that everyone is aware of it. Sorry, I didn't >> think >> > > that the incubator report might not be read back. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> Patrick, >> > >> >> > >> I read it. I'm curious, did you or Andrew share your feedback with >> > >> Mnemonic directly? I've noticed that podlings sometimes don't see >> the >> > >> input, and don't receive responses the way TLPs do. >> > >> >> > >> For the podling's information, we do also maintain a whimsy page of >> all >> > >> approved board reports per project, Mnemonic can see that information >> > >> here: >> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Mnemonic >> > >> >> > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a dev list release vote, >> > that's a >> > >> great sign. >> > >> >> > >> There probably is room for more on list discussion, and yes the >> > committer >> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would be curious to see company >> > >> affiliations). >> > >> >> > >> I'll also point out that I sometimes ask these questions to podlings >> to >> > >> get >> > >> them to start thinking about graduation, not actually moving forward >> yet >> > >> due to $reasons. >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback on the most recent podling >> report? >> > Do >> > >> > you disagree? I don't believe this has changed significantly in the >> > past >> > >> > month/two. For example all releases have been done by a single >> person. >> > >> > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 >> > >> > >> > >> > As I've mentioned previously my only concerns at this point are >> around >> > >> > diversity. >> > >> > >> > >> > Patrick >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org >> > >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs >> > >> >> >> > >> >> As John advised, our community and project mnemonic might be >> ready to >> > >> get >> > >> >> graduated, I'd like to start the following votes according to the >> > >> >> processes >> > >> >> of http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html with your >> > >> mentoring >> > >> >> and guidance if no objection today >> > >> >> >> > >> >> - Community graduation vote >> > >> >> - IPMC recommendation vote >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation Status >> > >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html >> > >> >> Very truly yours >> > >> >> +Gary >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < >> ga...@apache.org> >> > >> >> wrote: >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > Hi John >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting this discussion. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is growing and continue to attract more >> people >> > to >> > >> >> join >> > >> >> > our community. Some industry users are aware of mnemonic and >> > already >> > >> get >> > >> >> > interested as i known. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver unique values to their business so I >> > >> think >> > >> >> > that it is very important for us to get mnemonic graduated in >> time >> > if >> > >> >> > qualified. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left for us to graduate Mnemonic, I'm >> > also >> > >> >> > looking forward to propose our project as Apache TLP. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Thanks! >> > >> >> > Very truly yours >> > >> >> > Gary >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > After looking at your recent release, your current growth and >> > well >> > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was wondering what was left for you guys to >> > >> graduate? >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > John >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Best regards, >> > > >> > > - Andy >> > > >> > > If you are given a choice, you believe you have acted freely. - >> Raymond >> > > Teller (via Peter Watts) >> > > >> > >> > >
