Hi Philip, yeah that certainly makes sense. Keeping our links alive (and at least avoid a 404) should be our highest priority. Do we have a strategy for this and was that part of the website launch plan?
Best regards, Marco On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 1:20 AM Philip Cho <chohy...@cs.washington.edu> wrote: > Hi Marco: > > Today, I searched for "mxnet conv" and clicked on the first link (Gluon > Neural Network Layers — mxnet documentation) and got a 404. > I suppose documents have different URLs under the new doc system? This may > explain drop in traffic. > > Philip. > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:17 PM Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I checked the Google Analytics statistics and the launch of the new > > website reduced the traffic by over 80%: > > > > [image: image.png] > > > > (Please let me know if the image is not visible) > > > > How shall we handle this? > > > > Best regards, > > Marco > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 7:30 AM Zhao, Patric <patric.z...@intel.com> > > wrote: > > > >> For the install page [1], I suggest to add the selection of backend > >> DeepNumpy [2] which will be more clean. > >> > >> [1] http://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/index.html > >> [2] https://numpy.mxnet.io/#installation > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: kellen sunderland <kellen.sunderl...@gmail.com> > >> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 12:47 PM > >> > To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org > >> > Subject: Re: new website, docs code freeze > >> > > >> > New site looks good. I do notice that a few tutorials from the old > >> site are > >> > missing (for example the TensorRT tutorial). Any plans to bring them > >> back? > >> > > >> > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 10:04 AM Haibin Lin <haibin.lin....@gmail.com > > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Another issue I found with the current website: the Sphinx object > >> > > inventory > >> > > <https://www.sphinx- > >> > doc.org/en/master/usage/extensions/intersphinx.htm > >> > > l> file https://mxnet.apache.org/objects.inv is missing. GluonNLP > >> > > relies on this file to link document across projects. Shall we add > it > >> > > back? > >> > > > >> > > Best, > >> > > Haibin > >> > > > >> > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 2:04 AM Lieven Govaerts <l...@mobsol.be> > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Hi, > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 06:28, Thomas DELTEIL > >> > > > <thomas.delte...@gmail.com> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks all for the feedback, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > We'll send an email next week with the list of missing features, > >> > > content > >> > > > > and bugs that we plan to fix. > >> > > > > We took the option of releasing early, with some features > missing, > >> > > rather > >> > > > > than trying to be at feature parity with the old website before > >> > > launching > >> > > > > the website. > >> > > > > The reason why we decided to do that is two-fold: > >> > > > > - playing catch-up with docs in master introduce daily conflicts > >> > > > > that > >> > > > need > >> > > > > to be resolved and introduce opportunity for errors > >> > > > > - by releasing early, we can take advantage of the community > >> > > > contributions > >> > > > > in modifying whatever the community feels like a better way of > >> > > > > doing things. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > One of the goals of the new website was to disentangle the main > >> > > website, > >> > > > > now called "static_site" to the auto-generated docs. Now the > >> > > > > overall > >> > > site > >> > > > > is made of a main static site, with easy to modify content and > >> > > > > easy to understand architecture for anybody familiar with basic > >> > > > > html, and a collection of mini-websites for each language > bindings > >> > > > > that can be > >> > > built > >> > > > in > >> > > > > isolation and that are self-contained. Actually the new CI jobs > >> > > > > builds > >> > > > all > >> > > > > of them in parallel independently. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > There is PLENTY of room for improvement, it would be great if > the > >> > > > community > >> > > > > can help contribute to bring the new website at the same level > of > >> > > content > >> > > > > richness as the old one, and then even further. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Missing features: > >> > > > > - As pointed by Haibin, the API docs do not have the full list > of > >> > > > operators > >> > > > > and classes. There is a mix of auto-generated docs based on > >> > > > > packages, > >> > > and > >> > > > > some docs that are spelled out manually to improve the logical > >> > > > organization > >> > > > > of the package where there is a need. The drawback with manually > >> > > > > listed classes in a package is that it's very easy to miss some. > >> > > > > If someone > >> > > > wanted > >> > > > > to build a sanity check that would automatically detect which > >> > > > > classes > >> > > are > >> > > > > not in the documentation, or if someone knew how to enable that > >> > > > > with sphinx, that would be a great addition to the python docs > >> > > > > - There is missing content in the python tutorials, and the > >> > > > discoverability > >> > > > > could be improved. Some old tutorials have not been migrated > just > >> yet. > >> > > > > - The nightly tests on tutorials have been disabled for now > >> > > > > - There is no "Download jupyter notebook" for tutorials just > yet. > >> > > > > - Non-python tutorials might benefit from a blurb description > and > >> > > > > a > >> > > > better > >> > > > > content organization. > >> > > > > - Python tutorials could be better organized, have a picture > >> > > accompanying > >> > > > > their description > >> > > > > - There is no site-wide search, this is not an easy problem to > >> > > > > solve to > >> > > > be > >> > > > > fair given the static nature of the website, but maybe an > external > >> > > plugin > >> > > > > might be able to give a half-way solution > >> > > > > - There is no version selector for the docs > >> > > > > - There is bug in search box of the python docs, but this is > just > >> > > > > a > >> > > small > >> > > > > JS bug that can be fixed easily (on my list for next week) > >> > > > > - Most old links have not had a redirect put in place. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I noticed on the Ubuntu home page in the Developer dropdown that > the > >> > > > link MXNet on Ubuntu > >> > > > <https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/install/index.html > >> > > > >with > >> > > > Nvidia > >> > > > < > >> > > > > >> > > > >> https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/gpu-accelerated-applications/ > >> > > mxnet/ > >> > > > > > >> > > > doesn't work anymore, it points to: > >> > > > https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/install/index.html > >> > > > > >> > > > Also, on the MXNet 'getting started' page > >> > > > https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/get_started , the link "Ubuntu > >> > > > Installation Guide" at the bottom doesn't work either, it points > to: > >> > > > https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/ubuntu_setup.html > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > I suggest you do a scan of the new website to find these dangling > >> links. > >> > > > > >> > > > regards, > >> > > > > >> > > > Lieven > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > We'll formalize this in github issues next week, but they are > all > >> > > fairly > >> > > > > small and helping out on these would be a great way of > >> > > > > familiarizing yourself with the new website build system and > >> website > >> > architecture. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks all for the feedback, please keep it coming! > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thomas Delteil > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Le sam. 21 sept. 2019 à 09:53, Haibin Lin > >> > > > > <haibin.lin....@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > It looks like my previous email did not go through. > Re-sending: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi Aaron, > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > The website looks cool. Thanks for pushing this to > production. A > >> > > > > > few > >> > > > > > questions: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > - I was looking for the API doc for mx.sym.dot, but I find > that > >> > > > > > most operators under mx.sym.* are missing. Is this expected? > >> > > > > > - I was also checking the search functionality, searching the > >> > > > > > keyword "ndarray" only returns one result > >> > > > > > "mxnet.ndarray.NDArray", which > >> > > > doesn't > >> > > > > > seem right. There animation keeps going (Searching. -> > >> > > > > > Searching.. -> Searching ...) and gives me an impression that > >> > > > > > the search is never completely done(?). > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Best, > >> > > > > > Haibin > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 4:50 PM Chaitanya Bapat < > >> > > chai.ba...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks Aaron and the team for launching new website! > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. There's no search button anywhere on the landing page. > >> > > > > > > 2. I wasn't able to find FAQ (and without search button I > dont > >> > > > > > > have > >> > > > > > option > >> > > > > > > but to go manually on each menu). Only when I go to > >> > > > > > > Docs&Tutorials > >> > > -> > >> > > > > FAQ > >> > > > > > > -> Extend and Cotribute (that I got what I wanted). > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Suggestions > >> > > > > > > Might want to make this searchable and pop FAQ on the main > >> > > > > > > page (or somewhere prominent) > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > > > Chai > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 14:58, Przemysław Trędak < > >> > > ptre...@apache.org> > >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > There seems to be a problem with (at least Python, did not > >> > > > > > > > check > >> > > > > > others) > >> > > > > > > > APIs. For example this page: > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/api/python/docs/api/symbol/_autogen > >> > > /mxnet.symbol.Symbol.argmax.html > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > says that it is a convenience method for argmax (with a > >> > > > > > > > link), > >> > > but > >> > > > > > > > clicking that link just points to the same website (and so > >> > > > > > > > user > >> > > has > >> > > > > no > >> > > > > > > way > >> > > > > > > > of getting to the docs of the actual operator). > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > When I tried to manually remove Symbol from the URL to get > >> > > > > > > > to mxnet.symbol.argmax.html, I got a "Not found" webpage > >> > > > > > > > which I > >> > > guess > >> > > > > > also > >> > > > > > > > should not happen (ignoring the fact that this should > exist, > >> > > going > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > > > random URL under the website should redirect to the main > >> > > > > > > > page I > >> > > > > think). > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Przemek > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 2019/09/20 16:41:28, Lin Yuan <apefor...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > Looks very neat. Thank you Aaron and many others for > >> > > > > > > > > launching > >> > > > > this! > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:31 AM Carin Meier < > >> > > > carinme...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Nice!!! Congrats everyone! > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 10:28 AM Aaron Markham < > >> > > > > > > > aaron.s.mark...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Alrighty! The new site is launched. You might need > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > clear > >> > > > > your > >> > > > > > > > cache. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > >> > > > > > > > > > > Aaron > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aaron Markham < > >> > > > > > > > aaron.s.mark...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks everyone. The PRs passed CI, but please > >> > > > > > > > > > > > continue > >> > > > > holding > >> > > > > > > > off on > >> > > > > > > > > > > > docs and CI edits. Unless there are any > objections, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I'd > >> > > > like > >> > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > launch > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the new website today. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:46 AM Aaron Markham < > >> > > > > > > > > > aaron.s.mark...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > The last two PRs [1][2] for the new website and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > docs > >> > > have > >> > > > > > > passed > >> > > > > > > > CI > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > (finally). Please do not make changes to /docs > or > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > /ci > >> > > > until > >> > > > > > we > >> > > > > > > > get > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > these approved and merged. Every time there's a > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > merge > >> > > > > > conflict > >> > > > > > > > it has > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > set us back a day or two while shepherding the > PRs > >> > > > through > >> > > > > CI > >> > > > > > > > again. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless there are catastrophic issues discovered > in > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > a > >> > > > > review, > >> > > > > > I > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > recommend that we hold any patches or updates to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the > >> > > PRs > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > > > follow-up > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > PRs. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > There are four steps to launch: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Once the PRs are approved, the plan is to > merge > >> > > 15885 > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > > > delete > >> > > > > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > old content first. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Then immediately merge 15883 to add in the > new > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > CI > >> > > > flows > >> > > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > > updates > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > to the content Thomas and I have already had > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > merged in > >> > > > > 15884 > >> > > > > > > [3]. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. I will change the website validation Jenkins > >> > > pipeline > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > > > point to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > the new pipeline. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. I will change the website publishing Jenkins > >> > > pipeline > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > > > point to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > its new pipeline as well. Once triggered, the > old > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > site > >> > > > will > >> > > > > > be > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > replaced with the new one. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Post launch we'll need to update the DNS for > >> > > > beta.mxnet.io > >> > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > point > >> > > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > production, and there will likely be some > >> > > > > redirect/.htaccess > >> > > > > > > > updates > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > needed next week to assist with any deep linking > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > and > >> > > 404 > >> > > > > > issues > >> > > > > > > > that > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > pop up. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > >> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/15885 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] > >> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/15883 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [3] > >> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/15884 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > *Chaitanya Prakash Bapat* > >> > > > > > > *+1 (973) 953-6299* > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > [image: https://www.linkedin.com//in/chaibapat25] > >> > > > > > > <https://github.com/ChaiBapchya>[image: > >> > > > > > https://www.facebook.com/chaibapat > >> > > > > > > ] > >> > > > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/chaibapchya>[image: > >> > > > > > > https://twitter.com/ChaiBapchya] > >> > > > > > ><https://twitter.com/ChaiBapchya > >> > > > > > >[image: > >> > > > > > > https://www.linkedin.com//in/chaibapat25] > >> > > > > > > <https://www.linkedin.com//in/chaibapchya/> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >
