Hi guys,
Sorry for the late reaction. Just want to say that i'm sorry about the
situation, I should have been more carefull, and this sort of things won't
happen next time. All your reactions were quite usefull and made me learn a
lot about ASF.
I don't think anyone feels that either Ernst or Catalin had any evil motives in all of this (I certainly don't). But it's pretty clear we (Apache) need to improve the education process for new committers (as they come on board in a particular project), and perhaps we can rearrange the steps for Google Summer of Code contributions (if the program happens again next summer), but having the ICLA gotten out of the way early.
Craig
Best regards,
Catalin
Matthias Wessendorf-4 wrote:
>
> Ernst,
>
> glad you replyed to some comments. The MyFaces community trys the best
> to help users with how OS development works. You are very welcome
> here. The ASF is not all about code, those the guide is important. One
> document to read is [1] if you have *enhancements* to that. they are
> welcome. Provide a patch for the infra team ;)
>
> I now think we should move back to work.
> Thanks for the contribution
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html
>
> On 8/23/06, Ernst Fastl <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>> Hi There!
>>
>> Since the recent commit brought quite some comments and advices in
>> different
>> threads I'll try to comment on what I understand as the outcome of
>> that discussions
>> in this mail.
>>
>> >For a substantial contribution like this, we'll need a CLA on file in
>> >any case (even if the code came in through a jira-issue).
>>
>> >Is the original author of these classes willing to sign and fax in a
>> CLA[2]?
>> >If so, that gets us over the first hurdle. If not, the files should
>> definitely be removed.
>>
>> I signed and faxed it today in the morning, so you all can be sure
>> that this is apaches
>> code now. Sorry that I haven't done that before, I did not know that
>> this is also necessary
>> if another commiter commits the code for you. I should have gathered
>> more information of the
>> process of apache contributions - to be honest I just didn't think of
>> any legal issues.
>>
>> >I am not concerned about the icla or not
>> >I am more concerned about the fact that patches sent offline
>> >and not through Jira.
>>
>> I'm also sorry for that one. I just thought it would be good to
>> provide some code which
>> implements what I think came out of the initial discussions, before
>> starting to talk
>> on the mailing list of things that do not already exist. That was
>> probably the wrong direction
>> and I will try hard to communicate more efficiently with the
>> community in the future.
>>
>> >The second problem is one that Wendy pointed out ... lack of license
>> headers on the source files.
>>
>> Again I can only apologize, I just didn't think of that - sorry.
>>
>> >The sort of "offline" development. Sending offline a patch to a
>> >committer for letting him commit the stuff is to me a -1. Looks like a
>> >"bypass".
>>
>> I really didn't mean to bypass confirmation or evaluation of the
>> community. I just thougth
>> if the code is commited to the sandbox that this doesn't cause any
>> harm and all people that
>> want to verify the code can take a look there and give feedback.
>>
>> >Matthias, you're absolutely right - I'm just as concerned as you about
>> >offline development, and asked Ernst several times to engage in an
>> >discussion on the mailing list.
>>
>> All together I can only apologize for all those beginners misstakes. I
>> am still new to Open Source
>> Development and although it may have produced a different image I just
>> had the best intentions.
>> Thanks to all the comments that came up after this commit I belive I
>> learned a lot of things
>> about how the ASF works and will hopefully be able to avoid such
>> beginners misstakes in the future.
>>
>> kind regards
>>
>> Ernst
>>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
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