Simon,

>If this element is not specified, 
>the container must set its default 
>timeout

I think the spec is not very helpful with this text as it does not say what the 
"container default value" is.

With respect to memory usage this is even more important for Orhestra as a 
developer often do not even know which entities live in the persitence context 
cache.

I definitely think this "small topic" is worth discussing it - later we have to 
argue why we felt the decision in one way or the other - we should be prepared; 
regardless of what we decide at the end ...


Mario

-----Original Message-----
From: simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, Sep 8, 2007 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: [orchestra] Conversation Timeouts (was changed     scope   
configuration)
To: Reply-    "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>To: MyFaces 
Development <dev@myfaces.apache.org>

Ok, so I guess orchestra could use that same convention. This is still a
>"magic number" that people will need to look up in the docs, though.
>
>I still think it is more intuitive for people to not get a conversation 
>timeout unless they configure one. There will be absolutely no surprised 
>developers wondering where their beans went.
>
>The http session really does have to be a sane default as otherwise memory 
>usage will eventually bring down the whole webapp. But with
>Orchestra, the conversations do eventually go away - when the session does.
>
>My, we have spent a lot of bandwidth on a very small point :-)
>
>It's nice to see people are interested in Orchestra though.
>
>Regards,
>
>Simon
>
>On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 19:03 +0200, Bernhard Huemer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> according to the Servlet specification:
> 
> ///
> The session-timeout element defines the default
> session timeout interval for all sessions created
> in this web application. The specified timeout
> must be expressed in a whole number of minutes.
> If the timeout is 0 or less, the container ensures
> the default behaviour of sessions is never to time
> out. If this element is not specified, the container
> must set its default timeout period.
> \\\
> 
> regards,
> Bernhard
> 
> On 08.09.2007 18:48, Mario Ivankovits wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> >   
> >> If no timeout property is present, then no timeout applies.
> >> Otherwise, the specified timeout applies.
> >>     
> >
> > You are right too with all you said.
> > Hmmm .... No pc here yet, but, how do a servlet container behave if there 
> > is no session timeout configured or is it a required configuration?
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Mario
> >   
>
>

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