I do like Jack.... We could write a usage tutorial called: "You don't know Jack"..

Scott

Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
I'd prefer a Spanish word...
To me checker sounds stupid.
(krasser checker...)

-M

Sent from my iPod.

Am 11.05.2008 um 01:55 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

@andrew:
it depends on the mother tongue. ;)
for some of you 'seven' sounds boring - especially if english is your mother tongue.
words of foreign languages sound much more interesting.
if i translate 'seven' into my mother tongue, it also sounds a bit boring (just because it isn't exotic for me).
in my country it's a kind of "trend" to use english words.

so maybe we should just use an "invented" name or an acronym.
e.g.:
jac (_j_ava _a_nnotation _c_hecker)
jack (_j_ava _a_nnotation _c_hec_k_er)

if you translate e.g. 'jack' into my mother tongue, there are a lot of different meanings. so there is no real meaning - it just sounds interesting (it's a matter of taste).

regards,
gerhard



2008/5/10 Leonardo Uribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

    Some spanish words:

    myfaces-commons-validacion
    myfaces-commons-validar
    myfaces-commons-validador
    myfaces-commons-valide
    myfaces-commons-evaluador


    On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Hazem Saleh
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

        +1 for myfaces-commons-checker.


        On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Gerhard Petracek
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

            do you have a further suggestion?
            maybe a bit more fancy?

            e.g. one of the suggestions i heard is:
            myfaces-commons-checker

            maybe it's a new starting point for further suggestions.

            regards,
            gerhard



            2008/4/29 Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
            <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

                How about "convalidi".  It's validate in Italian (I
                think).

                Gerhard Petracek wrote:

                    hello scott,

                    do you have a suggestion for a short and fancy name?

                    regards,
                    gerhard



                    2008/4/27 Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>:


                       +1 to not naming it validations.  There is
                    already a commons
                       validator.

                       -0 to including core in the name

                       Strong -1 to including JSR in the project
                    name.  A jar is nearly
                       an enhancement number for java.  You wouln't
                    name your project
                       something like MyFaces-1234 after a Jira
                    ticket number.


                       On Apr 26, 2008, at 10:25 AM, "Gerhard Petracek"
                       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
                       wrote:

                           hello alexander,

                           i got your idea.
                           however, i hope we will find a short and
                        fancy name.

                           if we don't have 'core' within the name, i
                        think we have to find
                           something else than just 'validation'.
                           otherwise it will be a bit confusing for
                        users due to the fact
                           that the core itself doesn't validate.
                           concrete validation logic is located
                        within the
                           independent/optional modules.
                           the target is to have a core which
                        provides the infrastructure
                           and which encapsulates the specifics of
                        the jsf version.
                           furthermore, the core is independent of
                        specific annotations. the
                           optional modules provide the concrete
                        annotations and/or
                           validation logic (independent of the jsf
                        version).
                           (reason for and/or: we don't provide the
                        annotations of jpa nor
                           of jsr 303 - we just provide the
                        validation strategies for these
                           external annotations.)

                           @myfaces-commons-validation-annotations:
                           it isn't a pure annotation module - it
                        also provides the
                           validation strategies and much more.
                           (in the case of the jpa validation support
                        it just provides the
                           validation strategy.)
                           moreover, i would suggest that we rename
                        seven-validation to
                           seven-ext-validation or a bit shorter:
                        seven-extval (for extended
                           validation)
                           or something similar which indicates that
                        these are our
                           annotations (and so on).

                           @myfaces-commons-validation-jsr303:
                           i'm fine with both jsr303 (my original
                        suggestion) or bean-validation

                           the names of our compromise so far:

                           myfaces-commons-[new name]
                           (= the core)

                           myfaces-commons-[new name]-validation
                           (= our annotations + validation strategies
                        incl. cross-component
                           validation infrastructure and also the jpa
                        validation strategy,...)

                           myfaces-commons-[new name]-bean-validation
                           (= the infrastructure and validation
                        strategies to support jsr 303)

                           fancy suggestions for [new name] are welcome.
                           (we need some suggestions to open a vote.)

                           or what's about something different
                           it isn't my favourite - however, it might
                        be an impulse for other
                           suggestions.

                           e.g.:
                           myfaces-commons-validation-core
                           myfaces-commons-validation-extval
                           myfaces-commons-validation-jsr303 (or
                        bean-validation)

                           (i prefer an independent name.)

                           regards,
                           gerhard



                           2008/4/25 Jesse Alexander (KSFH 336)
                           <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                           <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>:



                                   we are getting side-tracked...
                                   let's find a name within this
                        thread! :)

                               validation ?
                               ->
                               myfaces-commons-validation
                               myfaces-commons-validation-annotations
                        (was -validation)
myfaces-commons-validation-jsr303 (was bean-validation)
                                               kind regards
                               Alexander


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