Agree with Werner's assessment on JSF2.0 adoption. The 1.2 adoption curve
shouldn't be a benchmark for 2.0 adoption.

I think 2.0, when it goes final, is going to have significant uptake. Apple
might already be using the Mojarra snapshot for one of its rebate processes:

http://weblogs.java.net/blog/edburns/archive/2008/09/apple_using_jsf.html

Cheers,

Zubin.
http://zwadia.com

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Andrew Robinson schrieb:
>
>> However, as Matthias pointed out, JSF 2.0 standardize Trinidad's principal
>>> core features namely PPR and Resource handling and hopefully skinning
>>> too.
>>> Under such circumstances, I feel that we should wait for 2.0 to be
>>> cemented
>>> before going through a massive refactoring of some of the old and twisted
>>> code parts so that the refactored design is fully compatible with 1.2,
>>> but
>>> using 2.0 concept to make the upgrade to 2.0 easier imho.
>>>
>>
>> Although those are really good concerns, I wonder how long it will
>> take JSF2 to be adopted. It seems like many are even reluctant to
>> adopt 1.2. So I wonder if it is still worth it for us to make an
>> effort to at least clean up the 1.2 trunk? (I did not mention the 1.0
>> trunk as I seem to have lost my desire to maintain the JSF 1.1 code
>> myself)
>>
>>  Well the JSF 1.2 adaption is slow, due to several reasons, some people
> cannot due to the Java 5 adoption inherent to JEE5 (Political concerns).
>
> For others it simply is not worth it, they do not gain too much, most areas
> JSF 1.2 addresses are covered already by extensions.
>
> JSF2 however is an entirely different issue, if it works out it removes
> pretty much every weak point of jsf and adds a lot of stuff people really
> need in their day to day applications. I assume the adoption will probably
> very high with new applications probably trying to target 2.0 asap!
>
>
>  I guess it comes down to time and desire. I worry about the UIXNode
>> conversion as I don't yet fully understand that code enough to feel
>> comfortable porting it without missing things. I guess I could create
>> sandbox renderers for the components, then if they look complete, we
>> could promote them & replace the UIXNode ones at that time. Is there a
>> WIKI page that I missed that talks about how to convert these guys or
>> about any of the UIXNode architecture?
>>
> +1
>
>

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