Werner Punz schrieb:
> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Werner Punz <werner.p...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Actually We probably can provide a non facelets based solution
>>> under the myfaces umbrella, tomahawk, extensions or impl I donĀ“t care
>>> but I am definitely sure we will be unable to provide it under
>>> the standard f: tags...
>>
>> yeah. I know. I am really wondering why the "support all views" ship
>> sailed away.
>> Again, I understand that some solutions may only fly in Facelets land...
>>
>> That said, but wasn't the promised goal of the formal/current EG that
>> a flexible ViewLayer was
>> the KEY ? ==> Swing-based RenderKit etc ? Or is this (JSF) just another
>> web-framework ?
>>
> Well the entire ajax part makes only sense in the web domain.
> f:ajax definitely is not suitable for swing and others.

Why doesn't partial-page-updating make sense for presentation layers
other than HTML?

If a JSF renderkit was to generate some special markup that a client app
 (browser replacement) then created swing components from, that
submitting part of the page (a subset of the swing widgets) would still
be a useful thing to do, wouldn't it?

Is the JSF2.0 PPR-related spec designed to handle this, ie is the
response message structured so that a non-browser can still interpret it
correctly? As long as the response contains just XML with component ids
and values, it seems that this would work ok...

Cheers,
Simon

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