Looks good to me as well. I've got to admit that this ProjectStage thing
seems to get more useful than what I was thinking when I first saw it pop on
the EG list

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>wrote:

> awesome.
>
> I plan to start development on that next week... Till than you can
> change your mind :-)
>
> -Matthias
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Jeanne Waldman
> <jeanne.wald...@oracle.com> wrote:
> > I agree with your list Matthias.
> > Jeanne
> >
> > Matthias Wessendorf wrote, On 12/8/2009 8:56 AM PT:
> >
> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Trinidad_goes_ProjectStage
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > ok,
> >
> > I updated the wiki:
> >
> > I will continue with these values, as there was no concern against them.
> >
> > regarding the hidden, unspecified
> > "javax.faces.FACELETS_REFRESH_PERIOD" parameter, I will follow up in
> > a different thread.
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Pavitra Subramaniam
> > <pavitra.subraman...@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Matthias Wessendorf wrote:" On 12/2/2009 10:43 AM PT:
> >
> > Ok,
> >
> > I added some value suggestions to those guys that we identified to fit
> > into the ProjectStage API:
> >
> >
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DEBUG_JAVASCRIPT
> >  * Production => FALSE
> >  * other stages => TRUE
> >
> >
> > +1. although I think if a user were to change the recommended defaults,
> like
> > set ProjectStage=Production and override the DEBUG_JS to be true, then we
> at
> > least need to warn the user of this as appropriate.
> >
> >
> > Yeah I was planing do WARNING for everything that is overridden
> >
> >
> >
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DISABLE_CONTENT_COMPRESSION
> >  * Production => FALSE
> >  * other stages => TRUE
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHECK_FILE_MODIFICATION
> >  * Production => FALSE
> >  * other stages => TRUE
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.resource.DEBUG
> >  * Production => FALSE
> >  * other stages => TRUE
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.ENABLE_PPR_OPTIMIZATION (see above)
> >  * Production => FALSE (current default)
> >  * other stages => TRUE
> > -<debug-output> (from trinidad-config.xml file)
> >  * Production => FALSE
> >  * other stages => TRUE
> >
> >
> > +1. I also was wondering if
> > "org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHECK_STATE_SERIALIZATION" should be set to
> > NONE in Production if this is really used for a testing Trinidad in
> > pseudo-High Availability (HA) mode. It looks like we could set this
> > different values based on the the ProjectStage
> >
> > Production
> > org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHECK_STATE_SERIALIZATION=none
> >
> > Development, Unit Test
> > org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHECK_STATE_SERIALIZATION=session,tree
> >
> > System Test
> > org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHECK_STATE_SERIALIZATION=all
> >
> >
> > great. thanks for the feedback. Makes sense to me. I think that this
> > parameter actually *translates* to the ProjectStage.
> > Your suggestions make sense to me.
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Pavitra
> >
> > Please let me know what you think...
> >
> >
> > I updated the wiki page, to reflect the suggestions:
> > http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Trinidad_goes_ProjectStage
> >
> > I also created this JIRA ticket, to keep track of the item:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1652
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > yep, that's what I was saying
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Jakob Korherr <jakob.korh...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think the best way would be that the init parameters have stage related
> > standard values (actually that what Matthias suggested), for example:
> >
> > If we are in ProjectStage.Production the standard value of
> > org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DISABLE_CONTENT_COMPRESSION is false,
> otherwise
> > it is true.
> >
> > But this only sets the DEFAULT value. The user still can configure each
> > parameter independently by putting it in web.xml.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jakob Korherr
> >
> > 2009/12/2 Martin Koci <martin.k...@aura.cz>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > does trinidad reload both JSP and facelets views if
> > org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHECK_FILE_MODIFICATION=true?
> >
> > For facelets based views there is a new JSF 2.0 param
> > javax.faces.FACELETS_REFRESH_PERIOD (-1 = never reload, 0=always, 1,2,
> > 3,.. - check interval) but it's relation to project stage is not clear -
> > see https://javaserverfaces.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1434
> >
> > Martin Kočí
> >
> > Matthias Wessendorf píše v St 02. 12. 2009 v 09:25 +0100:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > here is a (complete?) list of all Trinidad configuration parameters:
> >
> > * System Properties ( => System.getProperty(....)):
> > org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHECK_STATE_SERIALIZATION
> > documentation is here:
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1245
> >
> >
> http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad/trinidad-api/apidocs/org/apache/myfaces/trinidad/bean/util/StateUtils.html
> >
> > ==> does not really make sense to port to Stage.....
> >
> > * The "trinidad-config.xml" file:
> > See here for infos about it:
> > http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad/devguide/configuration.html
> >
> > I think that ONLY this element could make sense:
> > -<debug-output>
> > (e.g. as for PRODUCTION you want FALSE here... )
> >
> > * Settings in the WEB.XML (aka Context Parameters):
> > Some info is here as well:
> > http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad/devguide/configuration.html
> >
> > The web.xml has different types of settings:
> > some fit to ProjectStage, some not......
> >
> > Here is a grouped list, where I think they don't make sense with
> > project_stage at all:
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CACHE_VIEW_ROOT
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CLIENT_STATE_METHOD
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CLIENT_STATE_MAX_TOKENS
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHANGE_PERSISTENCE
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.USE_APPLICATION_VIEW_CACHE
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.ENABLE_LIGHTWEIGHT_DIALOGS
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.ALTERNATE_VIEW_HANDLER
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.FACELETS_VIEW_MAPPINGS
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.UPLOAD_MAX_MEMORY
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.UPLOAD_MAX_DISK_SPACE
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.UPLOAD_TEMP_DIR
> >
> > These parameters do make sense:
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DEBUG_JAVASCRIPT
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DISABLE_CONTENT_COMPRESSION
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHECK_FILE_MODIFICATION
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.resource.DEBUG
> > (note, we need a bug here, as this is NOT documented in the "official
> > documentation" :-) )
> >
> > This parameter _may_ make sense (*caution:* it is an internal and
> > temporary param):
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.ENABLE_PPR_OPTIMIZATION
> > See http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRINIDAD-1368
> >
> > So basically, only these make sense (for me):
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DEBUG_JAVASCRIPT
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DISABLE_CONTENT_COMPRESSION
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.CHECK_FILE_MODIFICATION
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.resource.DEBUG
> > -org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.ENABLE_PPR_OPTIMIZATION (*see
> > above)
> > -<debug-output>
> >
> > Let me know if you agree with this list and I will follow up on what
> > values they should have,
> > in what STAGE....
> >
> > A note: Perhaps we want to be able to still override a _SINGLE_
> > setting, regardless for the
> > current STAGE. Means: If the application runs in
> > "ProjectStage.Production", we do CSS compression.
> > BUT... if the web.xml says
> > "org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.DISABLE_CONTENT_COMPRESSION => TRUE",
> > we should honor that... This would give users a more fine grained
> > control over these configuration settings.
> >
> > What do you think ?
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Matthias
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
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