I haven't and wont look at the mojarra code but I think you are looking for

org.apache.myfaces.config.annotation.LifecycleProvider

Geronimo has been trying to get everyone to standardize on this style of 
interface as it lets the implementor support constructor injection 
transparently.

Geronimo's implementations of this use xbean-reflect which provides a handy way 
to stuff in all the properties and get a fully configured object back.

thanks
david jencks


On Aug 5, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:

> Somehow I think there was already work/discussion about it, based on a
> Tomcat interface.
> It for sure does bring back some fragile memory. Let me think...
> 
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Well, looking at the RI is for sure not OK.
>> 
>> I didn't see a problem with the previous provided links (the JBoss
>> code), however
>> I have not opened any of the provided links yet.
>> 
>> -Matthias
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:54 PM,  <ssilv...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> That's OK.  I guess I can do the SPI implementations on my end but it might
>>> not make it into JBoss AS6 GA. Let's concentrate on the MyFaces SPI's for
>>> now.  How does MyFaces handle the SPI's like Mojarra has?  I'm sure it's OK
>>> to look at Mojarra code since it's GPL2, right?  If not, you can look at
>>> JavaDoc.  We need something similar to:
>>> 
>>> com.sun.faces.spi.InjectionProvider
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net/source/browse/mojarra/trunk/jsf-ri/src/main/java/com/sun/faces/spi/InjectionProvider.java
>>> 
>>> com.sun.faces.spi.AnnotationProvider
>>> https://mojarra.dev.java.net/source/browse/mojarra/trunk/jsf-ri/src/main/java/com/sun/faces/spi/AnnotationProvider.java
>>> 
>>> Stan
>>> 
>>> Quoting Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>:
>>> 
>>>> At Apache we can not have code that contains (L)GPL code; or depends on
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> We had discussion(s) about this in the past. The below link contains
>>>>  references
>>>> to other (Apache) documents:
>>>> 
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/qtc4g6vsracgzbok
>>>> 
>>>> -Matthias
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Jan-Kees van Andel
>>>> <jankeesvanan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great news! It would be very nice if JBoss ships with MyFaces 2. This
>>>>> also
>>>>> opens up possibilities to do some enhancements to increase developer
>>>>> productivity in JBoss, like better resource reloading and so on. Or doing
>>>>> some things more efficient by plugging into the JBoss infrastructure.
>>>>> Just
>>>>> thinking out loud... :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> One thing about the JBoss SVN link Stan sent. I took a quick peek at the
>>>>> license header in a Java file and saw that it's LGPL licensed. AFAIK,
>>>>> this
>>>>> is not compatible with ASL, so I suggest to not look at the code while
>>>>> implementing the stuff Stan asked for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Jan-Kees
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2010/8/5 Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Stan,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> welcome back. We do understand that you can not make any promise on that
>>>>>> topic.
>>>>>> The fact that some folks at JBoss are thinking about shipping MyFaces
>>>>>> (as an alternative option)
>>>>>> is a good news for this entire community here. Especially it is a
>>>>>> great motivation for the
>>>>>> folks that did the main work on ensuring Apache MyFaces 2.x is a great
>>>>>> success.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the missing pieces: I am sure that there will be some interested in
>>>>>> working on them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>>> PMC Chair Apache MyFaces
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:42 PM,  <ssilv...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Would you like to see MyFaces Core ship with JBoss AS6?  If so, read
>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you've been around MyFaces awhile, you probably remember that
>>>>>>> JBoass
>>>>>>> AS
>>>>>>> used to ship with MyFaces instead of Mojarra.  It was regrettable, but
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the time Mojarra was far ahead spec-wise and the powers that be
>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> time would be better spent integrating Mojarra instead of improving
>>>>>>> MyFaces.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> However, with JBoss AS6 M4, this is no longer an "either or"
>>>>>>> proposition.
>>>>>>>  Both MyFaces and Mojarra can live side-by-side.  The application can
>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>> which implementation to use:
>>>>>>> http://community.jboss.org/wiki/JSFonJBossAS6
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What's more, changing the default JSF implementation for AS6 is just a
>>>>>>> matter of changing the defaultJSFConfig property in an XML file.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've talked internally at JBoss about adding MyFaces to the JBoss AS
>>>>>>> community distribution.  Some were for it, and some were very, very
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>  Nobody so far is against it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The good part is that I don't think it's a lot of work.  It's probably
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> three or four classes that implement SPI's that I'm guessing MyFaces
>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>> has.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So this is where the MyFaces Dev group comes in.  MyFaces Core 2.0
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>> OK on JBoss AS6 right now.  However, there is some integration work
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> needed for full JEE5 and JEE6 compliance.  We need:
>>>>>>> * An injection provider SPI similar to Mojarra's
>>>>>>> com.sun.faces.spi.InjectionProvider.
>>>>>>> * The JBoss/MyFaces implementation of the SPI.  I expect this will be
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>> similar to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> org.jboss.web.jsf.integration.injection.JBossDelegatingInjectionProvider.
>>>>>>> * An AnnotationProvider SPI similar to Mojarra's
>>>>>>> com.sun.faces.spi.AnnotationProvider.
>>>>>>> * A JBoss/MyFaces implementation of the SPI similar to
>>>>>>> org.jboss.web.jsf.integration.config.JBossAnnotationProvider.
>>>>>>> * A ServletContextListener class to call for initialization.  I expect
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> will extend from MyFacesServletContextListener and be very similar to
>>>>>>> org.jboss.web.jsf.integration.config.JBossMojarra20ConfigureListener.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If MyFaces Dev decides to take this on, then the code will probably
>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> Apache and I'll bring it into JBoss AS using Maven.  I don't have time
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> write and maintain the code myself but I'm happy to help out with
>>>>>>> guidance
>>>>>>> and to do some refactoring of my code to make this easier.  BTW, the
>>>>>>> JBoss/Mojarra integration code lives here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/projects/jboss-jsf-int/trunk/jboss-faces/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lastly, let me say that I can't make hard promises right now.  I don't
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> if someone at JBoss/RedHat will come along and nix the idea.  However,
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> if we can't ship MyFaces you will have all the integration points
>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> have an easy way to "drop in" MyFaces whenever you want to use it with
>>>>>>> JBoss
>>>>>>> AS.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> WDYT??
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Matthias Wessendorf
> 
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