Question:

Should we add a new JIRA project (MYFACESHTML5)
Or is it enough to have a HTML5 component ?

I personally don't mind having a new project for it..

-M

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> wrote:
> Nope
>
> On Wednesday, January 19, 2011, Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> totally - let's create a jira instance for myfaces-html5 ?Do we need voting 
>> for this?
>>
>> Cheers,Ali
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> For example, for the hx:video component there is a "fallback" facet. But I 
>> can't say we're able cope with this problem (yet). So far, I've experimented 
>> Html5, CSS and other Javascript APIs; created some components, behaviors and 
>> etc.
>>
>>
>> Providing fallbacks automatically is not that easy and for some features, it 
>> is impossible. Of course, we would have allow users to plug in their 
>> fallbacks.That would be an important part of this project.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How do others cope with this situation? Is there an established pattern for 
>> this case? If so, then we should add it to our WIKI.There is a Javascript 
>> library called "Modernizr" [1] which can detect the support for features. 
>> AFAIK, people use that to use Html5 features or fallback to old stuff.
>>
>> Furthermore, Html side of the Html5 (Html + JS APIs + CSS3) mostly designed 
>> in a way that old browsers will just ignore the component, but not it's 
>> children elements. So, that is another way of providing fallbacks, as nested 
>> elements, since new browsers will consider the Html5 elements, but ignore 
>> it's non-applicable children.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr
>> Greetings,Ali
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>> Please allow me a question (I'm a complete noob on this topic), just for 
>> getting the 'big picture':
>>
>> The html5 components are obviously only for html-5 compatible browsers.
>>
>> Is there a strategy to also serve older (xhtml-4 only) browsers? Or do we 
>> just show them a 'not available for your old browser' page in this case?
>> How do others cope with this situation? Is there an established pattern for 
>> this case? If so, then we should add it to our WIKI.
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>> --- On Tue, 1/18/11, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: html5 lib
>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org>
>>> Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 12:47 PM
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> totally - let's create a jira instance for
>>>
>>> myfaces-html5 ?
>>>
>>> Hudson builds can done, once the final location has been
>>> discussed.
>>>
>>> -M
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Ali Ok <al...@aliok.com.tr>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> > I don't have any suggestions about the location, but I
>>> have a request
>>> > related to this context. To ease the contribution and
>>> use of other people, I
>>> > think a Hudson build and JIRA space would be useful.
>>> > What do you think about that?
>>> > Greetings,
>>> > Ali
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Jakob Korherr <jakob.korh...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> IMO we should add it as a new MyFaces component
>>> lib (of course, only
>>> >> after a successful vote).
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Jakob
>>> >>
>>> >> 2011/1/18 Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>:
>>> >> > hi,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > where should we place the html5 stuff, that
>>> Ali did during summer of
>>> >> > code?
>>> >> > Like what folder etc ?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It's time to get a first alpha out.. and the
>>> location should be a
>>> >> > stopper
>>> >> > (release often - release early)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -M
>>> >> >
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