Totally agreed, Leo! Regards, Jakob
2011/5/17 Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com>: > Hi > > @HTML5 > > Release this stuff in the near future give us the advantage to know > which things are required to include on the spec to support it fully. > I don't see any technical reason why this couldn't be done, and given > the code available and the effort required I think it is worth to do > it. > > @Advanced ResourceHandler: > > It is good to know there is some effort to include this into the spec. > But I think our position related to changes or enhancements to do > should be if there is no technical reason that prevent us to include > it in a module or even inside myfaces core, the way to go is just do > it now and later if the EG is willing to include it, well, we can help > with that. > > In the two previous cases this advice applies. It is important that > myfaces can be seen as a source of innovation in jsf and develop these > ideas goes into that direction. Additionally, this helps to the spec > to move more faster and that's good for everybody. > > Leonardo > > 2011/5/17 Jakob Korherr <jakob.korh...@gmail.com>: >> Hi, >> >> @HTML5 >> >> I think a first alpha release of Ali's project would be very good to >> have in the near future >> >> >> @Advanced ResourceHandler: >>>Of course there should be some additional work in the JSF EG, but I think >>>Jakob pinged Ed already on this topic, right? >> >> Yeap, we (the JSF 2.2 EG) are/will be working on it, see >> JAVASERVERFACES_SPEC_PUBLIC-947 >> >> The commons-resourcehandler module currently is a prototype for the >> new JSF 2.2 resource handler. It has the advantage that JSF 2.0 apps >> (even those running on Mojarra) can already use it (but more on that >> in the other mail). >> >> >> @JSF 2.2 prototyping branch: >> >> +++1! I'd like to have a branch for the resource-handler work! >> >> Regards, >> Jakob >> >> 2011/5/17 Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civ...@gmail.com>: >>> There is still no really lightweight component framework for >>> >>> JSF-2. >>> >>> I disagree :) >>> >>> The HTML-5 components from Ali are really great stuff too, but >>> >>> might take some time to be widely supported. But anyway, being >>> >>> a step ahead is always a good thing! >>> >>> Ali's work is great but why brand it as HTML5? JSF is widely used in >>> corporates which depend on IE so branding it as HTML5 might have a negative >>> effect on adoption. Would be cool to provide HTML5 stuff if platform >>> supports it and provide graceful degradation for legacy(IE). For example in >>> PrimeFaces I try to integrate HTML5 stuff like fileupload, charts(canvas) >>> with this way under the hood. "A component framework with HTML5 features" >>> sound better to me instead of just "HTML5 components". >>> On May 17, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Martin Koci wrote: >>> >>> Gerhard Petracek píše v Út 17. 05. 2011 v 11:59 +0200: >>> >>> hi, >>> >>> >>> imo we should prototype some jsf 2.2 features (at least in a branch). >>> >>> that would help the eg to specify some of the new features (like the >>> >>> window-id) easily and we can get the feedback of the whole community >>> >>> and we would have the basic implementation quite early. >>> >>> so we increase the chance that the new features won't have to be >>> >>> deprecated in the next version (see the target attribute of >>> >>> composite-components). >>> >>> ++++1 ! JSF need feedback from real usage before features are specified >>> (as final), not after. Only that way leads to framework with real >>> useability. >>> >>> since html5 is planned as a part of jsf 2.2, we should do the same >>> >>> here. >>> >>> >>> @lightweight component framework >>> >>> that might fit to tomahawk. >>> >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> gerhard >>> >>> http://www.irian.at >>> >>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>> >>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>> >>> Courses in English and German >>> >>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>> >>> >>> 2011/5/17 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> Especially the advanced resource handler is a great goodie. >>> >>> Currently it is not easily possible to deliver those resources >>> >>> with a cache header. Of course there should be some additional >>> >>> work in the JSF EG, but I think Jakob pinged Ed already on >>> >>> this topic, right? >>> >>> The HTML-5 components from Ali are really great stuff too, but >>> >>> might take some time to be widely supported. But anyway, being >>> >>> a step ahead is always a good thing! >>> >>> >>> Also Tomahawk still contains a few features which might be >>> >>> interesting in JSF-2 (Marcus Büttner is using those) >>> >>> * file upload >>> >>> * table sorting >>> >>> * table autosuggest >>> >>> * isUserInRole (would be great in conjunction with CODI >>> >>> manages Voters?) >>> >>> There is still no really lightweight component framework for >>> >>> JSF-2. >>> >>> We could of course possibly drop all the 'basic' components >>> >>> like t:inputText and stuff. >>> >>> >>> LieGrue, >>> >>> strub >>> >>> --- On Tue, 5/17/11, Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> From: Leonardo Uribe <lu4...@gmail.com> >>> >>> Subject: [myfaces] ideas and things to do >>> >>> To: "MyFaces Development" <dev@myfaces.apache.org> >>> >>> Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 3:48 AM >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Thinking about how can we do MyFaces even better, I think >>> >>> we should >>> >>> focus on these areas in the short term: >>> >>> 1. HTML 5 project: there is some code in this area, so it >>> >>> is only >>> >>> necessary a bit of effort to get it out. >>> >>> 2. Enhanced Resource Handler: again we have some code. >>> >>> 3. Agent detection support: again, there is some code >>> >>> extracted from >>> >>> trinidad long time ago, but now with JSF2 we can do some >>> >>> cleanup/update over this project. >>> >>> Any suggestions? >>> >>> Leonardo Uribe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Çağatay Çivici >>> Principal Consultant >>> PrimeFaces Lead | JSF EG Member >>> >>> Prime Teknoloji >>> Bilkent Cyberpark, A-303d >>> 06800 Ankara/Turkey >>> Tel: +90 312 265 05 07 >>> http://www.prime.com.tr >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jakob Korherr >> >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr >> work: http://www.irian.at >> > -- Jakob Korherr blog: http://www.jakobk.com twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr work: http://www.irian.at
