Hi Lars! On 2009-12-18, at 07:54 , Lars Nooden wrote:
> [changing the sequence of the paragraphs] >> So, let's start from the basics: Where are the Swedish community >> members? > > As I mentioned over a year ago, I would not be active for a while and I > haven't been. At work, maneuvering around a heavy anti-foss campaign, > which picked up steam in summer 2008, was using too much of my time. > The campaign turned increasingly petty and vindictive. (e.g. blocking > IMAPS at the firewall starting from shortly after my lecture on it.) Yes, I know, and I by no means was putting the burden on you to maintain the effort! I think we all appreciate that which you have been able to do. > > I have not even had time to stay in contact with Per over this year. > > Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: >> I'm concerned about the Swedish language group and for that matter, >> the OOo advocates and OOo members in Sweden. There are numerous >> activities going on and there are also quite a few businesses >> interested in or engaged with Foss and even OOo. ODF is also big >> there. But none of these factors has seemingly been sufficient to >> form a sustainable OOo commons or community, and so I'm concerned. > > If we speak for a few hours I can offer observations and experiences. > But IMHO much of it boils down to cultural characteristics and the > political / social problems cultivated since 1993 or so. There are some > infrastructural problems created then, manifesting now. So I have learned from you and others.... > >> I've suggested before to Leif (DA), Martin (NO) and others the idea >> of a pan-Nordic language/regional group. That may be a solution, but >> it, like everything else, needs to be driven to succeed. > > I've been in favor of that. The driving needs face time. That's how > things work. Yes. > >> What is the state of health of the community there? > > The backbone of Swedish industry and commerce, the polytechnics, were > eliminated and replaced with other institutions with dissimilar goals > and methods. Some of that applies also to the two original > universities, at least in regards to course content and teaching > environments. > > However, there are some really skilled people scattered about the > country. If a consensus regarding a goal can be achieved within that > diaspora of skilled people then things will take care of themselves > after that. > >> And can we look to forming such a pan-Nordic group? > > I would say, as I said before, "yes" to that. > I will bring in the Norwegian group, for where we last ended this particular discussion was in forming such a pan-Nordic regional group, and I thought of Martin Hauge as the principal within it, with Leif and other representatives, such as Per, joining in for specific events. One could look to any number of large-scale events related to foss that occur in Sweden and Norway as consolidating meet-ups. > /Lars best louis --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
