Hi On 2010-03-07, at 10:58 , Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> James, > > As I said, nothing is going to happen until you and others RTFM . > Read my message, again, and see exactly how you should submit ssh keys. Indeed. I just referred back to the proposer one ssh2key request (me: ssh2key). The way it works, as we spell out, is that the project lead (or designee) must approve of new requests. If I am tardy in responding, then by all means don't hesitate to nag me. But please follow the guidelines Charles points to. Louis > > Charles. > > Le Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:42:02 +0100, > "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com" <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> a > écrit : > >> I am willing to talk over the lead until I find someone else to >> replace me. Here are my keys, >> the SCA, I can do asap. >> mike >> https://launchpad.net/~jamesmikedupont/+sshkeys >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Charles-H. Schulz < >> charles-h.sch...@laposte.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would first like to thank Shkumbin for his contributions these >>> past years. I am eager to see the Albanian project grow and work >>> againwith Flossk or anyone who is willing and able to carry this >>> project forward. >>> >>> Unfortunately we cannot advance any further at that time until >>> Shkumbin has formally appointed a new lead (change his role from >>> observer to Project Lead). The new lead shall 1) upload his/her ssh >>> keys, sign and fax the SCA. >>> >>> This is explained here: http://native-lang.openoffice.org and here: >>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/NLC >>> >>> Until any of these steps have been completed we cannot consider >>> that we have a project and a leadership. If necessary, Louis >>> Suarez-Potts can change the role of the person whose new leadership >>> role has been agreed on. But even today, it's even unclear who >>> we're talking to. Please note that there can be two leads, if >>> necessary. >>> >>> Best, >>> Charles-H. Schulz. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Le Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:25:33 +0100, >>> "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com" <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> a >>> écrit : >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> We (flossk) have gotten the sources from shumbin, he is very busy. >>>> He came and spoke at the conference, I will have the videos >>>> online in some time. >>>> Agron is also part of flossk, I would like to see flossk taking a >>>> larger role in openoffice, >>>> it would be great to hold a openoffice workshop in kosovo and >>>> albania, can we get someone to come to one of the conferences >>>> this year: http://kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/ >>>> http://www.wikicfp.com/cfp/servlet/event.showcfp?eventid=8871 >>>> thanks, >>>> mike >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts >>>> <lui...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> On 2010-03-06, at 04:07 , Open Office Shqip wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi to everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I appoologize for not replying earlier in this issue, as I was >>>>>> offline >>>>> for >>>>>> some time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Loius, Charlkes and Agron, >>>>> >>>>> ….and also the entire list and world: these archives are public. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your interesting on making the albanian >>>>>> localization 'live' >>>>> again >>>>>> in OO.o site, but we have taken some efforts to make it live >>>>>> in FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova). So it's >>>>>> the work that we are tryibg to accomplish in localising the >>>>>> updates for OO.o 3.+, and having >>>>> new >>>>>> young people on team, on the field. >>>>>> >>>>>> Otherwise, I do not have any problem if you want to handle the >>>>>> Albanian >>>>> Lead >>>>>> to Agron, but just I would like to be sure that this will not >>>>>> lead only >>>>> to >>>>>> this small step. >>>>>> As we know, the OO.o source if free to be downloaded, >>>>>> localizes and >>>>> build. >>>>>> If Agron or anyone come's up with updated localisation, I >>>>>> would be more >>>>> than >>>>>> happy. So, feel free to decide, but just let's have results as >>>>>> proof. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, so far, only my team have developed something >>>>>> so far. I'm aware that it didn't went as expected, but that's >>>>>> life. >>>>> >>>>> Agroni, et al., let's work together on this. :-) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking forward for a progress in OO.o Albanian. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> >>>>>> Shkumbin >>>>>> >>>>> Shkumbin: a personal request. Please consider changing your >>>>> email alias. Right now, it's "Open Office Shqip" and that would >>>>> suggest to someone unfamiliar with us and our policies that you >>>>> are a representative (in some official capacity) of >>>>> OpenOffice.org. I'm sure you do not want to confuse people, so >>>>> please change the alias to something less confusing. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> -louis >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Louis Suarez-Potts >>>>>> <lui...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> To reiterate the point: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A. For Albanian localization, please work with and within the >>>>>>> l10n >>>>> project: >>>>>>> http://l10n.openoffice.org and d...@l10n.openoffice.org. NLC >>>>>>> is no >>>>> really >>>>>>> suited for localization efforts. Please work there to >>>>>>> coordinate your efforts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> B. it's possible (likely?) that you are the only one working >>>>>>> on this. Is that the case? Do you know? What have you done to >>>>>>> determine that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> C. Let's say that others join you in this effort to localize >>>>>>> OOo to Albanian and that this is sustainable... in that case, >>>>>>> forming an NLC project makes sense. So: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. If the supposed lead of the Albanian project has not >>>>>>> responded to you >>>>> or >>>>>>> to us (and I'm cc'ing him here) within a reasonable period of >>>>>>> time--say within this week--and if there is a living >>>>>>> community (uhm, say >>>>> active--why >>>>>>> discriminate against the zombies? that's a joke.)--then work >>>>>>> with them >>>>> by >>>>>>> using the project list to move the localization ahead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. It may be that you need the permissions to update the >>>>>>> webpages, etc. >>>>> If >>>>>>> no one is there to grant you those within the project, I can >>>>>>> do that for you. Effectively, you would become the project >>>>>>> lead, though webmaster is >>>>> not >>>>>>> the same as lead. Still, to make it easier for all, you >>>>>>> should >>>>> co-ordinate >>>>>>> with the existing community, if any, on this issue, so that >>>>>>> who is in control of the pages and lists is known and >>>>>>> accepted by all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope this gets you started. Basically, it comes down to >>>>>>> this: Don't >>>>> wait >>>>>>> on ceremony (but don't be rude, of course) and do get going >>>>>>> on the localization if you have the resources or energies to >>>>>>> get others to work >>>>> on >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Louis >>>>>>> On 2010-03-01, at 23:34 , Linux Master wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please, can anyone look into my issue? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello dev list, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian >>>>>>>>> team (sq), >>>>> but >>>>>>> there has not been any response for far. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have not received any response from the team leader >>>>>>>>> Shkumbin Saneja >>>>> at >>>>>>> all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO >>>>>>> 1.1.4 I >>>>> believe >>>>>>> this team is not active anymore. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader >>>>>>>>> needs to >>>>>>> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive >>>>>>> because of him. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was >>>>>>>>>> almost 5 years >>>>>>> ago. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please help. I want to take over this project and get some >>>>>>>>> active >>>>> people >>>>>>> involved. Many have gone to launchpad and are translating >>>>>>> OpenOffice for Ubuntu in Albanian. For me, that's not the >>>>>>> right level to translate >>>>> since >>>>>>> only Ubuntu and sub distros of Ubuntu will benefit. >>>>>>>>> But, can only guess that many of them tried to register >>>>>>>>> here, but >>>>>>> because no one admitted they have found another place to have >>>>>>> fun. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> //Agroni >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: >>>>>>>>> Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 >>>>>>>>> years From: >>>>>>>>> Louis Suarez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> Date: >>>>>>>>> Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:34:55 -0500 >>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net >>>>>>>>> CC: >>>>>>>>> southerncr...@openoffice.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, Agroni, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2010-02-13, at 21:20 , linuxmas...@verizon.net wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Charles and Louis, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian >>>>>>>>>> team (sq), >>>>>>> but there has not been any response for far. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have not received any response from the team leader >>>>>>>>>> Shkumbin Saneja >>>>>>> at all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO >>>>>>>>>> 1.1.4 I >>>>> believe >>>>>>> this team is not active anymore. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader >>>>>>>>>> needs to >>>>>>> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive >>>>>>> because of him. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was >>>>>>>>>> almost 5 years >>>>>>> ago. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> //Agroni >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think the best tactic here is to inform the broader >>>>>>>>> lists via >>>>>>> d...@native-lang and also d...@l10n about this situation. It's >>>>>>> normal in Foss projects, which are often volunteer-run, for >>>>>>> the responsible to disappear as they become engaged in other >>>>>>> (often remunerative) >>>>> activities. >>>>>>> It's life. But equally, we can always and always are >>>>>>> soliciting new interest. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Given the nature of Albanian and its polity, I'd also >>>>>>>>> wonder if it >>>>> would >>>>>>> help to engage government support? >>>>>>>>> Foss saves money. Gives freedom. Builds local economies. Is >>>>>>>>> good. :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ciao >>>>>>>>> Louis >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Feb 6, 2010 09:19:44 PM, iss...@www.openoffice.org wrote: >>>>>>>>>> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the >>>>>>>>>> issue: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103426 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> User agroni changed the following: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What |Old value |New value >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> ================================================================================ >>>>>>>>>> Component|native-lang |l10n >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> QA contact|iss...@native-lang |iss...@l10n >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------- Additional comments from agr...@openoffice.org Sun >>>>>>>>>> Feb 7 >>>>>>> 02:19:42 +0000 2010 ------- >>>>>>>>>> Still no response from no one. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like the whole albanian team has abandoned this >>>>>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please, assign me as a new albanian team leader. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Come on, please, it's been 6 months since the last post >>>>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> Please do not reply to this automatically generated >>>>>>>>>> notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the >>>>>>>>>> website and enter your comments. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>>>> dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional >>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
