HI guys, I am not going to chase anyone. good luck in getting a response from him, mike
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi > > On 2010-03-07, at 10:58 , Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > > James, > > > > As I said, nothing is going to happen until you and others RTFM . > > Read my message, again, and see exactly how you should submit ssh keys. > > Indeed. I just referred back to the proposer one ssh2key request (me: > ssh2key). The way it works, as we spell out, is that the project lead (or > designee) must approve of new requests. > > If I am tardy in responding, then by all means don't hesitate to nag me. > But please follow the guidelines Charles points to. > > Louis > > > > > > Charles. > > > > Le Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:42:02 +0100, > > "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com" <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> a > > écrit : > > > >> I am willing to talk over the lead until I find someone else to > >> replace me. Here are my keys, > >> the SCA, I can do asap. > >> mike > >> https://launchpad.net/~jamesmikedupont/+sshkeys<https://launchpad.net/%7Ejamesmikedupont/+sshkeys> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Charles-H. Schulz < > >> charles-h.sch...@laposte.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I would first like to thank Shkumbin for his contributions these > >>> past years. I am eager to see the Albanian project grow and work > >>> againwith Flossk or anyone who is willing and able to carry this > >>> project forward. > >>> > >>> Unfortunately we cannot advance any further at that time until > >>> Shkumbin has formally appointed a new lead (change his role from > >>> observer to Project Lead). The new lead shall 1) upload his/her ssh > >>> keys, sign and fax the SCA. > >>> > >>> This is explained here: http://native-lang.openoffice.org and here: > >>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/NLC > >>> > >>> Until any of these steps have been completed we cannot consider > >>> that we have a project and a leadership. If necessary, Louis > >>> Suarez-Potts can change the role of the person whose new leadership > >>> role has been agreed on. But even today, it's even unclear who > >>> we're talking to. Please note that there can be two leads, if > >>> necessary. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> Charles-H. Schulz. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Le Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:25:33 +0100, > >>> "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com" <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> a > >>> écrit : > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> We (flossk) have gotten the sources from shumbin, he is very busy. > >>>> He came and spoke at the conference, I will have the videos > >>>> online in some time. > >>>> Agron is also part of flossk, I would like to see flossk taking a > >>>> larger role in openoffice, > >>>> it would be great to hold a openoffice workshop in kosovo and > >>>> albania, can we get someone to come to one of the conferences > >>>> this year: http://kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/ > >>>> http://www.wikicfp.com/cfp/servlet/event.showcfp?eventid=8871 > >>>> thanks, > >>>> mike > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts > >>>> <lui...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2010-03-06, at 04:07 , Open Office Shqip wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi to everyone, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I appoologize for not replying earlier in this issue, as I was > >>>>>> offline > >>>>> for > >>>>>> some time. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Loius, Charlkes and Agron, > >>>>> > >>>>> ….and also the entire list and world: these archives are public. > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for your interesting on making the albanian > >>>>>> localization 'live' > >>>>> again > >>>>>> in OO.o site, but we have taken some efforts to make it live > >>>>>> in FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova). So it's > >>>>>> the work that we are tryibg to accomplish in localising the > >>>>>> updates for OO.o 3.+, and having > >>>>> new > >>>>>> young people on team, on the field. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Otherwise, I do not have any problem if you want to handle the > >>>>>> Albanian > >>>>> Lead > >>>>>> to Agron, but just I would like to be sure that this will not > >>>>>> lead only > >>>>> to > >>>>>> this small step. > >>>>>> As we know, the OO.o source if free to be downloaded, > >>>>>> localizes and > >>>>> build. > >>>>>> If Agron or anyone come's up with updated localisation, I > >>>>>> would be more > >>>>> than > >>>>>> happy. So, feel free to decide, but just let's have results as > >>>>>> proof. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Unfortunately, so far, only my team have developed something > >>>>>> so far. I'm aware that it didn't went as expected, but that's > >>>>>> life. > >>>>> > >>>>> Agroni, et al., let's work together on this. :-) > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Looking forward for a progress in OO.o Albanian. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>>> Shkumbin > >>>>>> > >>>>> Shkumbin: a personal request. Please consider changing your > >>>>> email alias. Right now, it's "Open Office Shqip" and that would > >>>>> suggest to someone unfamiliar with us and our policies that you > >>>>> are a representative (in some official capacity) of > >>>>> OpenOffice.org. I'm sure you do not want to confuse people, so > >>>>> please change the alias to something less confusing. Thanks. > >>>>> > >>>>> -louis > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Louis Suarez-Potts > >>>>>> <lui...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> To reiterate the point: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> A. For Albanian localization, please work with and within the > >>>>>>> l10n > >>>>> project: > >>>>>>> http://l10n.openoffice.org and d...@l10n.openoffice.org. NLC > >>>>>>> is no > >>>>> really > >>>>>>> suited for localization efforts. Please work there to > >>>>>>> coordinate your efforts. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> B. it's possible (likely?) that you are the only one working > >>>>>>> on this. Is that the case? Do you know? What have you done to > >>>>>>> determine that? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> C. Let's say that others join you in this effort to localize > >>>>>>> OOo to Albanian and that this is sustainable... in that case, > >>>>>>> forming an NLC project makes sense. So: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1. If the supposed lead of the Albanian project has not > >>>>>>> responded to you > >>>>> or > >>>>>>> to us (and I'm cc'ing him here) within a reasonable period of > >>>>>>> time--say within this week--and if there is a living > >>>>>>> community (uhm, say > >>>>> active--why > >>>>>>> discriminate against the zombies? that's a joke.)--then work > >>>>>>> with them > >>>>> by > >>>>>>> using the project list to move the localization ahead. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2. It may be that you need the permissions to update the > >>>>>>> webpages, etc. > >>>>> If > >>>>>>> no one is there to grant you those within the project, I can > >>>>>>> do that for you. Effectively, you would become the project > >>>>>>> lead, though webmaster is > >>>>> not > >>>>>>> the same as lead. Still, to make it easier for all, you > >>>>>>> should > >>>>> co-ordinate > >>>>>>> with the existing community, if any, on this issue, so that > >>>>>>> who is in control of the pages and lists is known and > >>>>>>> accepted by all. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I hope this gets you started. Basically, it comes down to > >>>>>>> this: Don't > >>>>> wait > >>>>>>> on ceremony (but don't be rude, of course) and do get going > >>>>>>> on the localization if you have the resources or energies to > >>>>>>> get others to work > >>>>> on > >>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>> Louis > >>>>>>> On 2010-03-01, at 23:34 , Linux Master wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Please, can anyone look into my issue? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello dev list, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian > >>>>>>>>> team (sq), > >>>>> but > >>>>>>> there has not been any response for far. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I have not received any response from the team leader > >>>>>>>>> Shkumbin Saneja > >>>>> at > >>>>>>> all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO > >>>>>>> 1.1.4 I > >>>>> believe > >>>>>>> this team is not active anymore. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader > >>>>>>>>> needs to > >>>>>>> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive > >>>>>>> because of him. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was > >>>>>>>>>> almost 5 years > >>>>>>> ago. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Please help. I want to take over this project and get some > >>>>>>>>> active > >>>>> people > >>>>>>> involved. Many have gone to launchpad and are translating > >>>>>>> OpenOffice for Ubuntu in Albanian. For me, that's not the > >>>>>>> right level to translate > >>>>> since > >>>>>>> only Ubuntu and sub distros of Ubuntu will benefit. > >>>>>>>>> But, can only guess that many of them tried to register > >>>>>>>>> here, but > >>>>>>> because no one admitted they have found another place to have > >>>>>>> fun. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>> //Agroni > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: > >>>>>>>>> Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 > >>>>>>>>> years From: > >>>>>>>>> Louis Suarez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> Date: > >>>>>>>>> Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:34:55 -0500 > >>>>>>>>> To: > >>>>>>>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> To: > >>>>>>>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net > >>>>>>>>> CC: > >>>>>>>>> southerncr...@openoffice.org > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello, Agroni, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 2010-02-13, at 21:20 , linuxmas...@verizon.net wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Charles and Louis, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian > >>>>>>>>>> team (sq), > >>>>>>> but there has not been any response for far. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have not received any response from the team leader > >>>>>>>>>> Shkumbin Saneja > >>>>>>> at all. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO > >>>>>>>>>> 1.1.4 I > >>>>> believe > >>>>>>> this team is not active anymore. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader > >>>>>>>>>> needs to > >>>>>>> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive > >>>>>>> because of him. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was > >>>>>>>>>> almost 5 years > >>>>>>> ago. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Please help. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>> //Agroni > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I think the best tactic here is to inform the broader > >>>>>>>>> lists via > >>>>>>> d...@native-lang and also d...@l10n about this situation. It's > >>>>>>> normal in Foss projects, which are often volunteer-run, for > >>>>>>> the responsible to disappear as they become engaged in other > >>>>>>> (often remunerative) > >>>>> activities. > >>>>>>> It's life. But equally, we can always and always are > >>>>>>> soliciting new interest. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Given the nature of Albanian and its polity, I'd also > >>>>>>>>> wonder if it > >>>>> would > >>>>>>> help to engage government support? > >>>>>>>>> Foss saves money. Gives freedom. Builds local economies. Is > >>>>>>>>> good. :-) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ciao > >>>>>>>>> Louis > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Feb 6, 2010 09:19:44 PM, iss...@www.openoffice.org wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the > >>>>>>>>>> issue: > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103426 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> User agroni changed the following: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> What |Old value |New value > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > ================================================================================ > >>>>>>>>>> Component|native-lang |l10n > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> QA contact|iss...@native-lang |iss...@l10n > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ------- Additional comments from agr...@openoffice.org Sun > >>>>>>>>>> Feb 7 > >>>>>>> 02:19:42 +0000 2010 ------- > >>>>>>>>>> Still no response from no one. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Looks like the whole albanian team has abandoned this > >>>>>>>>>> project. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Please, assign me as a new albanian team leader. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Come on, please, it's been 6 months since the last post > >>>>>>>>>> here. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> Please do not reply to this automatically generated > >>>>>>>>>> notification from Issue Tracker. 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