HI Roddy, On 2010-06-10, at 09:03 , Roderick Young wrote:
> Louis > > Maaori translation > > Are the Atheist prepared for the theist to have a try at translation? God willing :-) (Which is to say, Let those who can help each other and build a commons for all.) > > But, on a less serious note, no need to be astonished, Louis, you will find > Google and before them Microsoft have worked up Maori Translations (see goole > language options). I have worked a very small part on advising and promoting > resectively on both projects. One took 6 years and the other two years. Super; but I am even more keenly interested in seeing how aboriginal/authocthonous work sustained by exigent internal or external pressure can map to other places, eg, Canada, North and South America, or Brazil (recent site of huge event re Global Climate Change and aboriginal peoples of the world). What is the requisite element? What can we, what can I do to initiate, sustain? Corporate money is not the answer. Local solutions are. But they can be further sustained by international co-ordination, and organisations like OOo are instrumental, I should think. > > The work on logistics has been talked out around open office and I have > called a few meetings and set some agendas for these meetings. Great. We also have the Irish Gaelic instance to think of, as well as the Extremadura one... > > I see the dialects of the same language always being the sticking point and > would suggest 5 Maori translation for tribal groups (Nga Puhi, Waikato, > Tuhoe, Kaitahu and one other) Hm. Interesting. We had similar issues of competing dialects with Norwegian, when we first started it. (I had *no* idea that NO was so complicated. But this is the nature of language and why its wealth is also its confounding element for so many. Language is if not culture nevertheless a tab by which culture is romanced.) > > Also the international nomencluture for MI may need to be changed to > represent the five! (extremely big task that the world Oo society my have to > uncork for the Maori before the wine can pour and the Haka (dance with > actions and song) can begin. We can work around things like this. For instance, in Norwegian we use simply NO for the project. But I think that within the group itself, there are gradations. In Spanish, we use simply ES but of course there are many dialects of Spanish, and the the Argentine flavour, for instance, differs quite markedly from the Mexican and that from Castellano, and so on. But they are sited happily enough under ES. > > An international welcome to the project is needed from a united community of > Oo member nations. > That can be arranged, of course, but first we need to see the code :-). This is a work programme, not a marketing or political effort. > This stage work would trigger governmental interest as well as NGO interest > in why it was not done. Perhaps. > > Brighter minds than I, more capable minds than I and more competent minds > than I can then come on board to have it completed. > > New Zealand was first to give women the vote, have a citizen first to clime > Mt Everest, first to split the Atom with Rutherford and so a first lurks in > this Oo somewhere. > :-) Ciao Louis > RY > NZ > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 10/06/2010, at 5:59 AM, Louis Suarez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> On 2010-05-19, at 06:13 , Roderick Young wrote: >> >>> Zanga >>> >>> A student in Waikato University, New Zealand (Aotearoa -Maaori indigenous >>> language of Aotearoa (land of the long white cloud) New Zealand, Southern >>> Hemisphere) back in early 2000's was from Malawi, Africa. We ate together >>> and talked long into the night many occasions. Zanga can you please say a >>> prayer, in your language for the oneness of humanity and also the unity we >>> need here in New Zealand to translate open office into Maaori, thank you. >> >> If we hold our faith in prayer for the oneness of humanity then we atheists >> are out of luck :-) >> >> But, on a more serious note, I'm astonished that there is not yet a Maaori >> NLC. There ought to be. I learned, once, long ago, much of Maaori and a few >> other versions of Polynesian, as my grandmother was travelling from island >> to island in the vast Pacific and I was fascinated by the incredible >> migrations made by the ancient Polynesians. What a beautiful, musical >> language. How grand and great it would be to have OOo in it! >> >> Louis >> >> >>> >>> Roddy Young >>> Aotearoa (New Zealand) >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 19/05/2010, at 10:02 PM, Zanga Chimombo <z.chimo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My name is Zanga Chimombo. I am IT professional living and working in >>>> Blantyre, Malawi. I would like to propose my native language ChiNyanja >>>> also known as ChiChewa, Chewa or Nyanja (ISO 639-1: ny, ISO 639-2: >>>> nya) to be considered as an NLC project of the Open Office suite of >>>> software. ChiNyanja is spoken in Malawi, Mozambique and Zambia. >>>> >>>> I have some experience of involvement in an open source software >>>> project (http://bawo.sourceforge.net) and I am aware of prior work on >>>> a ChiNyanja spell checker by Kevin Scannell and Soyapi Mumba >>>> (myspell-ny version 0.01) released in January 2005. As a start I would >>>> like to update this work in order to make a ChiNyanja spell checker >>>> dictionary available as an Open Office 3.0 Extension Dictionary. >>>> >>>> I would then be in a position to expand the dictionary as well as >>>> create a thesaurus and maybe even grammar checker. I am hoping that by >>>> this stage, significant interest can have been generated for the >>>> project within Malawi and surrounding countries. >>>> >>>> I look forward to your favourable consideration. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, Zanga. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
