Hi Marcos and everybody, concerning my own contribution, the integration of the bundles has stalled because I need a decision on how to proceed. I've mentioned that earlier. The first thing is that the donated files can only be integrated into the main NetBeans repository when all license headers have been changed to Apache 2.0 and fixed. Because many of the files are corrupted this can't be automated, and there are hundreds of files which need to be reviewed manually. The next, and more important, question is where to put them. The main NetBeans repository is already very large and there is, principally, no real need to integrate them there. Also, I'd suggest a different approach to the localization issue. Rather than building "multilingual editions" of the platform, I'd suggest to localise by modules in a one-module-one-language approach, meaning that the user installs a module for the desired language if he oder she needs translations. The technical side is not difficult but we need a place where we can collaborate on the corrupted headers and licenses issue. That means publishing the donated files somewhere on github as they are, but I don't know if that would be legally feasible, even if it is a private repository (not one maintained by Apache). The files have been donated to Apache, after all, and not to the general public. So, again, I'd like to proceed with the integration. My approach would be to keep the localisation separate from the main repository and I'd favour a one-language-one-module installation option. The tedious part is the review of the donated files, and it would be good to find a way to do this collaboratively. Does anybody know if it would be okay to reuse the donated files in a privately maintained repository? Boris
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 12:13, Marcos Muñoz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi. > > After a few months there seems to be no progress with Netbeans > translations. > > What news can be contributed to the matter? > What progress is made on the subject? Maybe it worked and I don't know ... > > Greetings! > > On 2019/09/19 16:34:23, Boris Heithecker <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi, > > I think all the community translations are now in the 3rd donation zip ( > > > http://bits.netbeans.org/download/apache-donation/ApacheNetBeansDonation3. > > zip ). So they have been donated, but they can't be publish within the > > Apache infrastructure as along as the license headers havn't been fixed. > > This is tedious. I started it for the German part: > > https://github.com/borisheithecker/netbeans-translations-de > > (Christian, you probably find you work from the old days here...) > > This is a one-module approach, i.e. you install/add one additional module > > to your IDE or platform app to get one language. These modules could be > > made public in a separate repository. I would mean decoupling the > > translations from the main repository, which is very large already. > > Boris > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 11:30, Christian Pervoelz <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > just for interest, as I was one of the community translators bringing > > > German to NetBeans. > > > > > > What happened to these community translations? > > > Did Oracle donate them too and if yes, where can I find them? Already > > > looked through the sources and hadn't found anything. > > > > > > I think a lot of these translations are still valid and can be re-used > for > > > a lot of languages. > > > > > > But as Boris already said, there might be licensing issues to be > cleared > > > first. > > > > > > Regards > > > CP > > > > > > > > > Am Mo., 16. Sept. 2019 um 09:02 Uhr schrieb Boris Heithecker < > > > [email protected]>: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > to continue my work on the localisation, I need a decision on where > to > > > > publish the localisation modules. There'll be one module per > language. > > > > For those who want to work on the individual modules, an adapted > license > > > > conversion tool could perhaps be published at > > > https://github.com/apache/ > > > > netbeans-tools <https://github.com/apache/netbeans-tools> . Still a > > > > decision is pending. > > > > I could continue to work on it in October. > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 08:51, Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Maybe here: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-tools > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:07 AM Boris Heithecker < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I'd need a (decision about a) place for the documentation > > > (Confluence?) > > > > >> and > > > > >> place in the repository/a separate repository to put the plugins > (or a > > > > >> decision on that question). And people ready to comb through the > files > > > > of > > > > >> their languages for license inconsistencies. > > > > >> Boris > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 18:42, Marcos Muñoz <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Is there any news about this? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > How do we create new languages from donated languages? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Greetings. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On 2019/07/26 11:01:54, Boris Heithecker < > [email protected]> > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > I think the first step should be now to create a few language > > > > plug-ins > > > > >> > from > > > > >> > > the existing (donated) bundle. The next step could be to set > up > > > this > > > > >> > > "pootle" server from Apache (I didn't know it before) to give > the > > > > >> > community > > > > >> > > a way to fix missing translations and add new ones. > > > > >> > > Boris > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 at 17:43, Eric Barboni <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > I just found https://translate.apache.org/ > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Would this service be of interest to the work ? > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Regards > > > > >> > > > Eric > > > > >> > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > >> > > > De : Marcos Muñoz Iglesias <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > Envoyé : jeudi 25 juillet 2019 17:31 > > > > >> > > > À : [email protected] > > > > >> > > > Objet : NetBeans language bundle > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Good afternoon. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > I would like the "Spanish" language to be included. > > > > >> > > > I don't know how the voting will be done but I think that > > > Spanish > > > > is > > > > >> > the > > > > >> > > > second most spoken language in the world. 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