OK, thanks a lot, passed all this on, let's see.

Gj

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:31 PM Matthias Bläsing <mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 09.04.2020, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> > The argument could be made that since the code was part of contrib under
> > the OCA (Oracle Contributor Agreement), it belongs to Oracle and Oracle
> can
> > simply donate it.
>
> yes - and assuming, that correct procedure was followed all
> contributions to netbeans had to be covered by an OCA. (for all this
> IANAL applies)
>
> Oracle puts itself into a position of massive power when requiring the
> OCA (applies to all projects using CLAs). Oracle is the only entity,
> that can for example take the OpenJDK Code, slab their "Oracle JDK"
> label on and sell it with a license, that is incompatible with the
> GPLv2-CPE. This is only possible, because every contriutor has to sign
> the OCA and thus gives Oracle a full license.
>
> I quote from the OCA:
>
> You agree that each of us can do all things in relation to your
> contribution as if each of us were the sole owners, and if one of us
> makes a derivative work of your contribution, the one who makes the
> derivative work (or has it made) will be the sole owner of that
> derivative work.
>
> So yes Oracle has "owner equal" rights to the code (and demonstrates,
> that they excercise that right (see OpenJDK)). In any case,
> contributions also applied to the NetBeans core, so if Oracle now wants
> to pull the "OCA is a problem" card, the ball was already dropped.
> Noone forced Oracle to use an OCA, that was and is a deliberate choice.
>
>
> So I'll reverse the question: How should it work, that all individual
> contributors validate, that they own the code and how shall we
> (NetBeans PMC) validate that? In this case relying on OCA and proper
> procedure of contribution in the past are invaluable.
>
>
> Greetings
>
> Matthias
>
>
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