Ah, true.

Anyway, can you continue working on your PR so we can merge it?

Gj

On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 10:01, Tim Boudreau <niftin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am not a committer here.  I was a committer on netbeans.org.
>
> -Tim
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 1:07 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hopefully we won’t need nb-javac forever and since you’re a committer,
> why
> > not merge your PR?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 17:57, Tim Boudreau <niftin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In order to double check that my update server had complete
> > dependencies, I
> > > installed a freshly-built build from master a couple of days ago and
> ran
> > it
> > > on a clean userdir - same experience anyone downloading it for the
> first
> > > time will have.
> > >
> > > Issues:
> > >  - Microscopic font sizes on a high-dpi screen and not antialiased (I
> > > submitted a pull request to fix this almost a year ago -
> > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1446 )
> > >  - J2SE projects (Ant-based) are not recognized.  On using Open File to
> > > open a file in such a project, I get the admonishment to install
> nb-javac
> > >  - After installing nb-javac, J2SE Ant-based projects are *still* not
> > > enabled and such projects are not recognized (maven projects are)
> > >
> > > Basically, unless you're a netbeans expert, you are not going to know
> > > about, or easily find information on
> > >  - Adding -J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=lcd_hrgb to
> > > $NB_HOME/etc/netbeans.conf
> > >  - Adding --fontsize nn to $NB_HOME/etc/netbeans.conf
> > >  - Manually enabling J2SE projects and dependencies in Tools | Plugins
> -
> > a
> > > new user doesn't know what a plugin is.
> > >
> > > Are we just producing builds for NetBeans experts, and we don't care if
> > > anyone else uses it?  Because this is a recipe for "I installed it and
> I
> > > couldn't read the text and couldn't open anything.  It's junk.  Don't
> > > bother with it."  If we have the slightest ambition of releasing
> > > professional-quality software, failing to fix low-hanging-fruit
> problems
> > > any new user is going to encounter in the first five minutes using it
> and
> > > have no idea how to fix is totally, totally unacceptable.
> > >
> > > Do *not* reply with "Well, some nice vendor is going to create their
> own
> > > distribution and fix the user experience."  It's a cop-out and in fact
> > > nobody is doing that.
> > >
> > > -Tim
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://timboudreau.com
> > >
> >
>
>
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> http://timboudreau.com
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