On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 8:56 PM Jaroslav Tulach <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dne úterý 9. února 2021 10:04:57 CET, Clement Levallois napsal(a): > > Dear all, > > > > This is my first message to this list, happy to join! > > > > Gephi (www.gephi.org / https://github.com/gephi/gephi) is a successful > > opensource desktop app built on top of the NetBeans platform > (release82). > > Great, say hello to Mathieu! > > > NetBeans (release82) is not compatible with the Java module system > > Well, if there is any problem running NetBeans 8.2 to modern JDK, then it > is > not a problem of NetBeans, but of the JDK! Actually that's not my > statement, > but an OSGi statement made with respect to Jigsaw - e.g. Java module > system. > Whatever JDK decides it do, there is no point in breaking previously > running > applications (like NetBeans Runtime Container). I believe people are still > using NetBeans 8.2 even on JDK15. That said, I'd be really glad if Gephi > migrated to recent Apache NetBeans. > > > roadmap of development for the NetBeans platform, with regards to > > compatibility with recent JDKs and in relation with the Java module > > There has been one PR by Jan Lahoda trying to bridge the gap between > NetBeans > module system and Jigsaw. It has not been integrated (yet). > FTR, it is this PR: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/291 It is intended to allow NetBeans modules to express dependencies on JDK modules. Jan > > The support for loading / offloading of java modules at runtime has > emerged: > > https://github.com/moditect/layrry > > Great for layrry! From NetBeans twenty five year's perspective this is > however > just an another attempt to define what NetBeans (and also OSGi) did more > than > twenty years ago. Please apologize my lack of enthusiasm. > > > nbm-maven-plugin relies on pack200 > > No, that's not true. nbm-maven-plugin doesn't rely on pack200. You can > configure it to not use pack200. > > > Also it was great meeting you Geertjan at FOSDEM '19 and talking about > > Netbeans. > > Unfortunately things on our side have not been as expected and we have > not > > been able to progress at all on Gephi or contribute to the Netbeans > > platform. I am the only maintainer and at the moment I am not able to > > properly do it. > > I still think Gephi is a great and needed software with many users and > > would not like it to become even more stale, but with my current personal > > situation I am not able to work on Gephi as much as I used to do. > > I am really glad for Gephi and I'd like to get it running on latest Apache > NetBeans. However: > > In such case you need no layrry. You don't need any new features. You also > need to stop waiting! > > NetBeans project is famous for keeping backward compatibility. Just > replace > the 8.2 binaries with 12.x binaries and it is going to work. If not, > report > errors. We'll investigate. > > Dear Eduardo, projects like NetBeans do understand the maintenance issues. > We > attempt to simplify your live not by introducing new, trendy approaches to > Jigsaw & co., but by keeping the old, already working solutions still > working. > No more excuses: Just upgrade! > > Then we'll help. > -jt > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
