Great, understood, and excellent to 'meet' again, Eduardo. However, the specific requirements that Gephi has can only be added to Apache NetBeans if Gephi itself is involved in doing so and, in fact, leads these developments.
Gj On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 11:02 AM Eduardo Ramos Ibáñez <eduram...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Clement and everyone, > > First of all, thanks Geertjan and all maintainers of Netbeans platform for > their past and current work. > > Of course, we have and will update Gephi to use recent versions of the > netbeans platform, the latest Gephi release uses 8.2 which is old, but we > will use an up to date version as can be seen here: > https://github.com/gephi/viz-engine/blob/master/pom.xml#L23 That will fix > many Java9+ problems on its own. > > Also it was great meeting you Geertjan at FOSDEM '19 and talking about > Netbeans. > Unfortunately things on our side have not been as expected and we have not > been able to progress at all on Gephi or contribute to the Netbeans > platform. I am the only maintainer and at the moment I am not able to > properly do it. > I still think Gephi is a great and needed software with many users and > would not like it to become even more stale, but with my current personal > situation I am not able to work on Gephi as much as I used to do. > > Regards, > Eduardo > > El mar, 9 feb 2021 a las 10:43, Geertjan Wielenga (< > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>) escribió: > >> The Gephi engineers are welcome to introduce Layrry to Apache NetBeans, >> which appears to imply that all of Apache NetBeans needs to be Mavenized as >> well, which the Gephi engineers are also welcome to contribute. Anyone else >> here are welcome to do the same, it does appear to be a lot of work, though >> it is always welcome. >> >> Gj >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:29 AM Clement Levallois < >> clementlevall...@protonmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The support for loading / offloading of java modules at runtime has >>> emerged: https://github.com/moditect/layrry >>> >>> For the compatibility with recent JDKs, I was referring to: >>> - nbm-maven-plugin relies on pack200, which has been removed from the >>> JDK ( >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-users/202102.mbox/browser). >>> Granted, this is a plugin not the NetBeans platform itself, but as a user >>> of the tool this is blocking. >>> - not sure about this one but: I think the NetBeans platform relies on >>> libraries with java.xml or org.w3c namespaces (like batik)? These cause >>> trouble when loaded in a java modular application. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Clément Levallois >>> Associate Professor >>> emlyon business school >>> Twitter and Skype: @seinecle >>> mobile: +33(0)6 59 08 33 92 >>> >>> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email. >>> >>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >>> On Tuesday 9 February 2021 10:11, Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>> What does it mean "it is not entirely compatible with recent JDKs"? >>> >>> Of course, NetBeans uses the NetBeans module system. Let's move to the >>> Java module system once it supports updates at runtime, i.e., you cannot >>> plug new Java modules into a running Java application, can you? >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:05 AM Clement Levallois >>> <clementlevall...@protonmail.com.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> This is my first message to this list, happy to join! >>>> >>>> Gephi (www.gephi.org / https://github.com/gephi/gephi) is a successful >>>> opensource desktop app built on top of the NetBeans platform (release82). I >>>> am not the maintainer of Gephi but I support its community of users (8.4k >>>> Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/gephi), and I have an >>>> interest in integrating the headless version of Gephi in my own Java >>>> projects. >>>> >>>> If I understand correctly, it seems that NetBeans (release82) is not >>>> compatible with the Java module system. Also, it is not entirely compatible >>>> with recent JDKs as far as I am aware. >>>> >>>> May I ask what is the roadmap of development for the NetBeans platform, >>>> with regards to compatibility with recent JDKs and in relation with the >>>> Java modules? This would help understand better how is the future of Gephi >>>> shaping. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Clement >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Clément Levallois (@seinecle on Twitter) >>>> >>> >>>
